Gun Control & RKBA

jmg257

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24. 'Cause no one else confuses dynamite with arms that could be kept and born by

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:10 PM

Feb 2013

the people, as were prescribed by Congress for Militia service, or as secured in the 2nd?

It's not about "weapons", its about "arms" the people were expected to be able to supply themselves, and keep and bear for defense of themselves and the state, just as had occurred and was well-understood for decades & decades in the colonies, and in other States around the world.

Like "Militia", "the people", "well-regulated", "the right of", "arming", "organizing", "disarming", etc. - "arms" as used in the 2nd was a well understood term.

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Firing an AR-15 with a printed lower. [View all] GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 OP

NPR had a story about printer guns last night. It scared the hell out of me. catbyte Feb 2013 #1

This ship has sailed, long ago in fact. SQUEE Feb 2013 #3

99% of Americans, especially idiots like James Holmes, would never learn how to use a metal lathe. denverbill Feb 2013 #4

Then we best ban gasoline, sawdust, model rockets and water proof matches just as a start..... SQUEE Feb 2013 #11

Worst school massacre in US history involved dynamite, which is also 'arms'. denverbill Feb 2013 #15

There is a world of differnece between a firearm and explosive ordnance.... Callisto32 Feb 2013 #20

There's also a world of difference between an AR15 and a colonial musket. denverbill Feb 2013 #23

'Cause no one else confuses dynamite with arms that could be kept and born by jmg257 Feb 2013 #24

Hint: Callisto32 Feb 2013 #44

Which founding father owned one, or had seen one? denverbill Feb 2013 #45

The Austrians used a single barrel semi auto from 1780 to around 1815. gejohnston Feb 2013 #46

#1, there is still no proof that the Founding Fathers had ever seen or heard of that gun. denverbill Feb 2013 #48

of course they knew gejohnston Feb 2013 #49

'of course they knew'? denverbill Feb 2013 #55

I read a lot more than I post gejohnston Feb 2013 #56

Who made you the DU zampolit? GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #64

Neither could the FFs have dreamed about the internet, or TV, or CDs. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #63

Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #67

Who owns tanks and fighter jets that are "armed"? bluesbassman Mar 2013 #68

Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #70

So your argument hinges on an amusement company... bluesbassman Mar 2013 #74

Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #81

Why don't more people fight the MSM, the press, the Internet, the equivalent "Quill"? NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #78

Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #82

In agreement with you. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #83

Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #85

I am not whinning.. SQUEE Feb 2013 #30

OK, here are some other salient facts. denverbill Feb 2013 #50

they did? gejohnston Feb 2013 #51

Are you saying dynamite is unregulated? I said dynamite is now regulated. denverbill Feb 2013 #53

I know it is gejohnston Feb 2013 #54

You don't even need a mill or a lathe ... holdencaufield Feb 2013 #32

Has anyone in the US ever committed a mass shooting with a home-made weapon like that? denverbill Feb 2013 #47

If prohibition were about stopping mass shootings... holdencaufield Feb 2013 #58

Not having the Moshen David, SQUEE Feb 2013 #59

3D printers are really cool madville Feb 2013 #2

"Guns are after all just pieces of metal and plastic." guardian Feb 2013 #8

I assumed all the new ones were, SQUEE Feb 2013 #12

Really? eom Kolesar Mar 2013 #79

Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #84

The technology to rifle a barrel BigAlanMac Feb 2013 #9

They hand build AK clones in the moutains of Pakistan using child labor. davepc Feb 2013 #14

.45 cal pistol using a UniMat bench lathe. rdharma Feb 2013 #29

There's a video floating arround of somebody putting 600+ rounds through one davepc Feb 2013 #5

600 rounds through a printed lower. Nothing broke. davepc Feb 2013 #6

DAMN! That barrel has to be HOT!! N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #7

Errrrr merrrr Gerrrrd! Time to panic...... right?!!!!! rdharma Feb 2013 #10

They start at about $2,000. A decent mid-range one will set you back about $5k. davepc Feb 2013 #13

They start at about $2,000 rdharma Feb 2013 #16

Moore's Law. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #18

price will come down rdharma Feb 2013 #19

Doesn't work that way. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #22

All you need is a 3-D printer. rdharma Feb 2013 #25

Did you miss my reply or are you being obtuse? clffrdjk Feb 2013 #26

Did you miss my reply rdharma Feb 2013 #27

Your knowledge of the subject is lacking clffrdjk Feb 2013 #28

"Polymer AR lowers have been around for quite a while" rdharma Feb 2013 #31

If bushmaster sold them they were re-branded clffrdjk Feb 2013 #33

If bushmaster sold them rdharma Feb 2013 #34

Oh look something I haven't seen clffrdjk Feb 2013 #35

"Great I like learning new things." rdharma Feb 2013 #36

Wow, at least I admit my failings. You have a little growing to do clffrdjk Feb 2013 #38

The point is that the Feds can't control it. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #37

"Anybody with a 3-D printer can make a lower for themselves." rdharma Feb 2013 #39

Absolutely clffrdjk Feb 2013 #40

"Do I really need a sarcasm tag?" rdharma Feb 2013 #41

Simply will point out that 15 yrs ago the idea of smartphones as commonplace iiibbb Feb 2013 #42

"technology is not in garages yet" rdharma Feb 2013 #43

Give it up! Weak argument! rdharma Feb 2013 #52

There was a time when the Sun, Moon, and stars all revolved around the earth... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #57

There will be a time ........ rdharma Feb 2013 #61

You just keep whistling past that graveyard. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #65

Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #71

No less herpyderpy than a reply to the same post 3 hrs apart... iiibbb Mar 2013 #66

Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #72

"Everybody can make their own firearms NOW" rdharma Mar 2013 #73

Does this look like a "zip gun" to you? holdencaufield Mar 2013 #75

"look like a "zip gun" to you?" rdharma Mar 2013 #76

Message auto-removed Floyd R Turbo Mar 2013 #87

But ... holdencaufield Mar 2013 #90

Some people... They see a Bridgeport mill and say, "nice drill press!" NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #77

Who needs a mill........? rdharma Mar 2013 #88

I have three Unimats, two newer ones (80's) and one really sweet older one. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #89

I'll bet you could whip out 1911 frames and slides on that baby! nt rdharma Mar 2013 #92

In the case of the Luty ... holdencaufield Mar 2013 #91

Our high school robotics club has one ...... oldhippie Feb 2013 #60

Given the right materials I think it could print a receiver. rdharma Feb 2013 #62

$499 clffrdjk Feb 2013 #21

You might be able to make a casting with the product from a 3-D printer. krispos42 Mar 2013 #98

Nah, they'll just wait til the video comes out. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #17

+1 would like to see the video Animal Chin Mar 2013 #69

"firing an AR 15 with a printed loader" is title of DU thread/video. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #95

" the NYT's obsession with guns," Kolesar Mar 2013 #80

The NYT also hates TESLA electric vehicles. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #86

Actually, the criticism was from Michael Ventura in his Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #96

So mandate a "V Chip" in all 3D printers mwrguy Mar 2013 #93

3D Printers holdencaufield Mar 2013 #94

Magic kudzu22 Mar 2013 #97