The Rifle on the Wall: A Left Argument for Gun Rights

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51. non peer reviewed?

You people ban funding for research on gun studies and then bemoan the absence of peer reviewed studies? You ensure that doctors are federally prohbited from documenting information about guns and then bmpan the absence of peer reviewed studies in my post. Complete hypocrisy. It's not bad enough that you people shit all over the First Amendment, but then you try to use that as a basis to counter an argument when you yourself provide NO EVIDENCE of any kind, peer reviewed or not.


That same false argument you repeat was made by Alex Jones when he appeared on Piers Morgan and by the sociopath who runs Gun Owners of America. Wayne LaPierre repeats the exact same argument with frequency. After all, where else did you get it? That economist article, ALSO NOT PEER REVIEWED--has floated around the web and repeated by right wingers ad nauseum.

I never said 90% of Mexican guns come from sales along the border. I said US gun dealers supply the Mexican cartels. That is a fact. We have destroyed Mexico through our guns and disgusting appetite for guns. To claim we do not supply them with guns is a bold faced lie. I suggest you read the articles you link:
"This means that the 87 percent figure relates to the number of weapons submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF that could be successfully traced and not from the total number of weapons seized by Mexican authorities or even from the total number of weapons submitted to the ATF for tracing. In fact, the 3,480 guns positively traced to the United States equals less than 12 percent of the total arms seized in Mexico in 2008 and less than 48 percent of all those submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF for tracing. This means that almost 90 percent of the guns seized in Mexico in 2008 were not traced back to the United States.

The remaining 22,800 firearms seized by Mexican authorities in 2008 were not traced for a variety of reasons. In addition to factors such as bureaucratic barriers and negligence, many of the weapons seized by Mexican authorities either do not bear serial numbers or have had their serial numbers altered or obliterated."

To claim that means they did not come from the US is another blatant distortion on your part.

Guatemalan is armed BECAUSE of the US. We waged war against that country for decades and armed death squads with weapons use to wipe out guerrilla groups and indigenous economies. Those are American guns. Knowing a little history helps.

The CDC shows that 90% of suicides by gun are successful, compared to 5% by pills. Reduced access to guns WOULD absolutely cut down on suicides, since guns are the single biggest method for suicide in the US. But that won't happen. People like you work diligently to ensure it doesn't.

Obviously you said nothing about gun deaths. That would require deciding those lives matter.

You have employed no reason. You have relied entirely on distortion. Your entire argument is a sad effort at self delusion.