Gun Control & RKBA

aikoaiko

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12. If its so common a false argument, show a few links to the such arguments.

Reply to Dog Gone at Penigma (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 04:45 PM

Feb 2013

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Disingenuous Argument (in more simple terms, FALSE argument) [View all] Dog Gone at Penigma Feb 2013 OP

Terminal Ballistics discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #1

now compare the .223 and gejohnston Feb 2013 #2

hell compare the .223 to backwoodsbob Feb 2013 #23

Not that I've heard krispos42 Feb 2013 #3

Size of the slug and power of the charge are just a part of the argument. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #4

Is there a .22LR weapon capable of doing that in sustained fire? ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #5

rare, expensive, and Title 2 gejohnston Feb 2013 #8

Those original laser sights were huge. SayWut Feb 2013 #13

That was not what I meant. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #9

Who makes that argument? I have never seen it made in serious conversation ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #6

me either ... never heard this claim in Any Conversation, serious or otherwise - Not to say that I Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2013 #10

Disingenuous is the argument is that a .223 will make you more dead than .22LR. Clames Feb 2013 #7

ironic post iiibbb Feb 2013 #11

and doubles down by Reccing it Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2013 #22

If its so common a false argument, show a few links to the such arguments. aikoaiko Feb 2013 #12

A "COMMON" Disingenuous Argument? SayWut Feb 2013 #14

Sounds like a strawman argument. ManiacJoe Feb 2013 #15

vague on the hague jimmy the one Feb 2013 #16

expanding ammo gejohnston Feb 2013 #17

leg wound from m16 jimmy the one Feb 2013 #18

As others have said, I doubt anyone has ever seriously claimed that the two rounds petronius Feb 2013 #19

you want examples? examples jimmy the one Feb 2013 #20

Your examples of 'people claiming .22=.223' are of people explicitly not petronius Feb 2013 #21

actually there are more of these kinds of claims than you would expect Dog Gone at Penigma Feb 2013 #25

Not one of those links - as far as I can tell - goes to anyone arguing that petronius Feb 2013 #27

Not specious at all if you know the facts. Clames Feb 2013 #47

since no one I know of... Puha Ekapi Feb 2013 #24

22-250 best turkey round ever. ileus Feb 2013 #26

Disengenuous argument starts with the OP... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #28

that there are a lot of ignorant voices speaking as expert in the gun control debates Dog Gone at Penigma Feb 2013 #31

And how are you helping by adding your voice to the fray? Clames Feb 2013 #32

I think the visual is a great refutation Dog Gone at Penigma Feb 2013 #36

of a non-issue iiibbb Feb 2013 #37

If you had an argument to refute you might have a point. Clames Feb 2013 #38

see some great examples below, posted by others Dog Gone at Penigma Feb 2013 #41

what lies? gejohnston Feb 2013 #42

Only lies I see are yours and your deliberate dishonesty.... Clames Feb 2013 #43

Speaking of lies. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #46

More Irony... iiibbb Feb 2013 #33

The instant issue about munitions misses some wider truths... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #35

Any here on DU, or in the gungeon? AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #45

A brilliant refutation... Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #29

Except that a surprising number of people ARE claiming all .22 cal is essentially the same Dog Gone at Penigma Feb 2013 #30

Anyone claiming they are the same ... are in fact disiginuous or ignorant iiibbb Feb 2013 #34

Can you show us some examples? aikoaiko Feb 2013 #39

like two peas in a ..... in a ... jimmy the one Feb 2013 #40

Not quite. I'd like to see examples of "a .223 is no different than a .22" aikoaiko Feb 2013 #44

You, too, noticed that *no* examples were given by the OP's author friendly_iconoclast Feb 2013 #49

Then you should have no problem linking to such claims... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2013 #48