Gun Control & RKBA

Thor_MN

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84. Good point. We should include a ban on remanufacture as well.

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:10 PM

Feb 2013

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What realistic and workable gun safety regulations would you recommend? [View all] rdharma Feb 2013 OP

mandate that doctors report drug addicts and dangerously psychotic individuals to the BATFE. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #1

And how would the 5th Amendment figure into your scheme? Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #123

5th amendment. LOL. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #134

this is what he was talking about gejohnston Feb 2013 #136

I am all about the fifth amendment in fact. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #137

So, doctors can (through their reports) effect an abrogation of 2A rights Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #139

Federal law prohibits these people from possessing firearms, not the doctors. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #144

Well, I thought I'd go through the motions & ask. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author gejohnston Feb 2013 #135

Magazine capacity limits would be my major one. n/t Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #2

given that there already millions of high cap magazines in circulation bubbayugga Feb 2013 #13

There are many therefore the answer is more? n/t Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #15

I'll ask again. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #18

How about starting somewhere? Thor_MN Feb 2013 #22

I'm not arguing to do nothing, you are. A magazine ban will do nothing. It's political bullshit. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #24

OK, you just proposed nothing about large capacity magazines. Thor_MN Feb 2013 #25

So in your plan... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #28

Good point. We should include a ban on remanufacture as well. Thor_MN Feb 2013 #84

So would that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #85

I can only assume that remanufacture holds no meaning for you Thor_MN Feb 2013 #89

I'm happy to do some for you as well. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #90

They wouldn't if they were caught doing it. Thor_MN Feb 2013 #93

Possibly I misspoke. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #95

Tell that to the families of people murdered by someone using large capacity magazines Thor_MN Feb 2013 #97

Many folks have... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #99

I don't see anything emmotional in banning large capacity magazines. Thor_MN Feb 2013 #107

I have a meaningful use iiibbb Feb 2013 #117

Personally, I wouldn't care if you had a grenade launcher if you were miles from anyone else. Thor_MN Feb 2013 #118

Training iiibbb Feb 2013 #119

Do you understand the difference between you and every freaking numbnuts that wans to shoot up Thor_MN Feb 2013 #129

do you? iiibbb Feb 2013 #131

I don't need to know. I'm not selling any firearms or accessories. Thor_MN Feb 2013 #132

From post 107/117 to here iiibbb Feb 2013 #133

Hmm, I never implied that you wanted them. Thor_MN Feb 2013 #143

I can accept that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2013 #127

Yes, I do see people who would knee jerk decisions. Thor_MN Feb 2013 #130

OK, so maybe in 100 years your plan MAY have an effect. bubbayugga Feb 2013 #73

That is just ONE idea, and so what if it takes 100 years? Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #76

In your plan, there's more and more large capacity magazines Thor_MN Feb 2013 #83

actually, since you started talking about your plan, the number of large capacity magazines bubbayugga Feb 2013 #96

I'm sorry Thor_MN Feb 2013 #98

How would your suggestions have changed the events at Sandy Hook? Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #64

Banning magazines in the wake of Sandy Hook bubbayugga Feb 2013 #74

Poor analogy. We were not attacked by Iraq on 911. People have been attacked with Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #77

So your suggestions wouldn't have changed anything, right? Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #91

As a poster pointed out above, there are millions out there Warpy Feb 2013 #101

It would merely be one cog in the mighty wheel of a comprehensive reform package. nt Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #104

I don't think so. krispos42 Feb 2013 #140

Fair enough ... Straw Man Feb 2013 #3

"He murdered her and took it." rdharma Feb 2013 #16

Please don't put words in my mouth. Straw Man Feb 2013 #41

I would add trigger locks need to ship with all firearms so hopefully we can cut down on the Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #4

Trigger locks are actually rather dangerous. ManiacJoe Feb 2013 #5

Oh? Do tell. You have my attention. Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #6

Trigger Locks iiibbb Feb 2013 #9

That makes sense. So the cable lock goes into the barrel preventing loading and ultimately Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #11

Or down the magazine well, on a rifle you'd need an awfully long cable iiibbb Feb 2013 #14

Trigger locks or cable locks? rdharma Feb 2013 #17

Find out who they are and lock them up... iiibbb Feb 2013 #26

I think this is a more common way of using cable locks guardian Feb 2013 #43

Thanks for the redirect. That does seem like a better system. nt Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #12

I would require raidert05 Feb 2013 #32

the problem I have with liability insurance gejohnston Feb 2013 #7

the problem I have with liability insurance is that it is classist on its face rdharma Feb 2013 #19

So if I steal your car... and then use that car to abduct a child... iiibbb Feb 2013 #27

"So if I steal your car... and then use that car to abduct a child..." rdharma Feb 2013 #30

You're adding qualifiers.... iiibbb Feb 2013 #35

"I countered with a similar example of the car......" rdharma Feb 2013 #45

I don't make silly arguments about hammers and knives... iiibbb Feb 2013 #53

The problem I have with liability insurance kudzu22 Feb 2013 #120

Why don't we start with mental health and then ensure no guns in the vicinity? dkf Feb 2013 #8

Why don't we start with mental health and then ensure no guns in the vicinity? rdharma Feb 2013 #20

I had an idea about gun sniffing dogs but it was shot down as illegal search and seizure. dkf Feb 2013 #48

"Why don't we start with mental health and then ensure no guns in the vicinity?" rdharma Feb 2013 #46

How is liability insurance related to safety? iiibbb Feb 2013 #10

How is liability insurance related to safety? rdharma Feb 2013 #21

So insurance will stop criminals, suicides and mass killers? hack89 Feb 2013 #55

Why don't we start by enforcing the gun laws we already have? PuffedMica Feb 2013 #23

"Adding more law will not improve the enforcement of laws ......" rdharma Feb 2013 #31

In spite of it being illegal to buy a firearm if you fail your NICS check... and trying to buy one iiibbb Feb 2013 #37

"Why is no one ever prospected when they fail their NICS check?" rdharma Feb 2013 #38

damn you auto correct.. "prosecuted".. iiibbb Feb 2013 #42

Auto correct fail... but... maybe I should not have said "never"... maybe "rarely" would be better. iiibbb Feb 2013 #44

Thanks for the link....... rdharma Feb 2013 #49

I'm not refuting background checks... but it would also help if they actually enforced laws. iiibbb Feb 2013 #50

"100% background checks:" Can this be done at nat'l level given IC clause? Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #124

Just look to Canada. They are a realistic and workable country with... Walk away Feb 2013 #29

Parts of Canada's gun laws are quite sane and reasonable gejohnston Feb 2013 #34

Ah, the usual, laughable comparison to Mexico or Costa Rica. Walk away Feb 2013 #75

how is it laughable? gejohnston Feb 2013 #79

A few suggestions... jeepnstein Feb 2013 #33

I don't even use marijuana and I think it should be decriminalized/legalized. iiibbb Feb 2013 #36

"Make it's use (NICS background checks) mandatory in all cases but inheritance. rdharma Feb 2013 #40

Your best bet... jeepnstein Feb 2013 #52

Respectfully, "handed down" notions may be a problem regarding "bill of attainder" violations. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #125

Tax rebate for purchase of a robust gun safe slackmaster Feb 2013 #39

Teach basic gun safety in public schools. rdharma Feb 2013 #51

Here's a few.... jmg257 Feb 2013 #47

Licensing... KansDem Feb 2013 #54

I would say renewable. New York has enacted this now for AWs and handguns. jmg257 Feb 2013 #56

How about this? guardian Feb 2013 #57

universal registration rickford66 Feb 2013 #58

it would provide jobs gejohnston Feb 2013 #59

Also rickford66 Feb 2013 #60

and what about drug gangs? gejohnston Feb 2013 #61

well rickford66 Feb 2013 #62

depends, usually stolen gejohnston Feb 2013 #63

well rickford66 Feb 2013 #65

not all gejohnston Feb 2013 #67

someone is STILL the last legal owner rickford66 Feb 2013 #69

I doubt they come straight from the manufacture gejohnston Feb 2013 #71

stolen guns? rickford66 Feb 2013 #66

reported stolen gejohnston Feb 2013 #68

Why don't you go work for the NRA ? rickford66 Feb 2013 #70

couldn't get along with Ted. gejohnston Feb 2013 #72

The majority come from straw buyers. Registration would nail those guys. rdharma Feb 2013 #82

registration might gejohnston Feb 2013 #86

how much clearer can I make this ? rickford66 Feb 2013 #87

Like I said before gejohnston Feb 2013 #88

sorry ... I was replying to 82 rickford66 Feb 2013 #100

rick, non-fatal friendly fire rdharma Feb 2013 #110

FORGET CURRENT LAW. rdharma Feb 2013 #92

not exactly gejohnston Feb 2013 #94

Riiiiiight! Prove it! rdharma Feb 2013 #102

leading up to FF gejohnston Feb 2013 #103

Why not ATF Form 4473 and 100% background checks on all gun sales. rdharma Feb 2013 #105

not at all, just if you are going to have a central registration, do it right gejohnston Feb 2013 #106

"I have never opposed NICS for private sales" rdharma Feb 2013 #108

try the search function for all past posts. gejohnston Feb 2013 #109

OK... I'll play...... rdharma Feb 2013 #111

theater that costs money and doesn't work as gejohnston Feb 2013 #112

The ROOT of the problem is responsible firearm ownership! rdharma Feb 2013 #113

actually I did gejohnston Feb 2013 #114

So speak! rdharma Feb 2013 #115

If you have read my posts as you claim, you would know gejohnston Feb 2013 #116

Good night! rdharma Feb 2013 #126

I think you'll find that the vast majority of straw purchasers kudzu22 Feb 2013 #141

But if you ask an antigunner they will say guardian Feb 2013 #142

I recommend a cap on the end of a barrel, that lets the gasses out the sides.... but stops the 2on2u Feb 2013 #78

just follow the safety rules gejohnston Feb 2013 #80

This feller followed the safety rules.... made sure it was loaded and then the barrel 2on2u Feb 2013 #81

He's lucky someone wasn't killed or injured. iiibbb Feb 2013 #122

Sounds like a recipe for a blown up gun kudzu22 Feb 2013 #121

backdoor gun control iiibbb Feb 2013 #128