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jmg257

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116. We were talking about Assault Weapons. Feeding devices are different.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:18 AM
Jan 2013

Last edited Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:19 AM - Edit history (1)

Edit: Ahhh - yes - NEW purchases!! Yes - apparently they are a problem for 7+, due to the call out of 'tubular' magazines, which sort of shows all 'magazines' are affected.

LARGE Ammunition Feeding Devices do NOT incude 10 rounders owned before Tuesday.
As long as they only contain 7 rounds (unless at a sanctioned range).

Relevant sections for reference.

Section 38 of the bill amends Penal Law � 265.00(23) to ban all large
capacity magazines that have the capacity to hold more than ten rounds

of ammunition including those that were grandfathered in under the
original assault weapons ban and creates a new ban on magazines that
hold more than seven rounds of ammunition. Magazines that can hold
more than seven rounds but not more than ten rounds and are currently
possessed will be grandfathered in but may only contain seven rounds
of ammunition.
,
Exceptions are made for large capacity magazines that
are curios or relics.


23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt,
drum, feed strip, or similar device, that (A) has a capacity of, or
that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten
rounds
of ammunition,
OR (B) CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI
TION, OR
(C) IS OBTAINED AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE
LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH AMENDED THIS SUBDIVISION AND HAS A
CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT,
MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION;...however, that such term
does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and
capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition

{exemptions} 265.20 of the penal law,
as amended by chapter 210 of the laws of 1999, is amended and a new
paragraph 7-f is added to read as follows:

7f POSSESSION AND USE OF A MAGAZINE, BELT, FEED STRIP OR SIMILAR
DEVICE, THAT CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION, BUT THAT
DOES NOT HAVE A CAPACITY OF OR CAN READILY BE RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO
ACCEPT MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION, AT AN INDOOR OR OUTDOOR
FIRING RANGE LOCATED IN OR ON PREMISES OWNED OR OCCUPIED BY A DULY
INCORPORATED ORGANIZATION ORGANIZED
FOR CONSERVATION PURPOSES OR TO
FOSTER PROFICIENCY IN ARMS;

S 265.36 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING
DEVICE.
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS A LARGE CAPACI
TY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE MANUFACTURED BEFORE SEPTEMBER THIRTEENTH,
NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR, AND IF SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED SUCH
LARGE CAPACITY FEEDING DEVICE BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER
OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS SECTION, THAT HAS
A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT,
MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.


S 265.37 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF CERTAIN AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS AN AMMUNITION
FEEDING DEVICE THAT SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE
DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED
THIS SECTION, THAT HAS A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR
CONVERTED TO ACCEPT MORE THAN SEVEN BUT LESS THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI
TION, WHERE SUCH DEVICE CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS
OF AMMUNITION.
IF SUCH DEVICE CONTAINING MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION IS
POSSESSED WITHIN THE HOME OF THE POSSESSOR

My prediction...1994 all over again.... iiibbb Jan 2013 #1
Times They are a-Changin SecularMotion Jan 2013 #17
Beat me to it. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #47
Google up Bob Dylan Guns. Take your pick. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #78
The song is not about Bob Dylan or guns. What's your point? SecularMotion Jan 2013 #81
Bob Dylan is pro RKBA. Jenoch Jan 2013 #91
The song isn't about Bob Dylan. What's your point? SecularMotion Jan 2013 #97
The song was written and performed by Bob Dylan. Your post was about Bob Dylan. Jenoch Jan 2013 #99
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #100
Are you really that stupid or are you just being obtuse? Jenoch Jan 2013 #101
Well, with regards guns, things have indeed changed since the song... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #108
This is actually good news in some respects... chicoguy Jan 2013 #18
That's what I was thinking customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #39
they have an "assault weapons ban" already gejohnston Jan 2013 #2
Worse...complete ban or registration of all AW... jmg257 Jan 2013 #3
Its worse than you think.. Hunters, their coming for YOU! virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #5
Looks like Ed Shultz better move his Fudd guns back gejohnston Jan 2013 #6
LOL! This has NOTHING to do with traditional hunting rifles - just gun porn guns jpak Jan 2013 #13
Maybe it is you who cannot read: chicoguy Jan 2013 #21
Dont think that is in the bill...semi only, and revolver shotguns. jmg257 Jan 2013 #52
what about the 7 round magazine limit? bossy22 Jan 2013 #74
ExIsting 10 rnd mags load With 7, new ones would limited cap to 7 max. jmg257 Jan 2013 #75
Nobody knows. Straw Man Jan 2013 #111
Yes - I see that now. If one reads the bill, jmg257 Jan 2013 #120
Correct. Straw Man Jan 2013 #121
10 rounders are OK if currently owned, can't contain more the 7 rounds. jmg257 Jan 2013 #117
Not true. Straw Man Jan 2013 #114
We were talking about Assault Weapons. Feeding devices are different. jmg257 Jan 2013 #116
Right -- but both banned. Straw Man Jan 2013 #123
Like this one? Straw Man Jan 2013 #110
This appears to define Jenoch Jan 2013 #92
Most 74x/74xx don't have 1 of the 'features'. Besides, 7400 7600 appear in Appendix A 18 USC 922 jmg257 Jan 2013 #95
Finally. Now we'll be able to walk the streets of NYC without fear bubbayugga Jan 2013 #9
are you serious? gejohnston Jan 2013 #10
If you mean you are a criminal chicoguy Jan 2013 #28
You must be so proud of your bullshit. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #12
Disingenuous. Straw Man Jan 2013 #109
Curios and antiques are exempt. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #118
But only if they meet New York's definition. Straw Man Jan 2013 #122
It is almost as if New York State thinks they can make their own laws. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #132
Didn't know you were such a "states' rights" fan. Straw Man Jan 2013 #146
Hmmm. Why yes I do believe state governments have the right to make laws. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #150
Sure, states have the right to enact ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #153
You know you are posting complete and utter bull shit, right? etherealtruth Jan 2013 #14
I copied and pasted from the LAW.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #25
The law is OK ... it doesn't go far enough etherealtruth Jan 2013 #41
The new law amends the existing laws. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #43
the new limit is three gejohnston Jan 2013 #45
No it isn't. Wtf. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #46
The new law makes 11 rounds or more mags illegal, no matter what date... jmg257 Jan 2013 #50
Ok 7 is not 3, and I was talking about the arsenal limit. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #76
Ahh- got ya - OK - didn't realize that. FWIW - "Firearm" is NOT "gun" in NY. jmg257 Jan 2013 #79
we had teh same thing in California: chicoguy Jan 2013 #20
Is there a grandfather clause to the "no more than ten" limit? beevul Jan 2013 #30
Thats what REALLY set my NY freind off...NO GRANDFATHERING.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #32
New ones must be 7, existing 10 rounders can only contain 7 rounds. Nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #54
I see many, MANY road trips to Vermont, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania, with... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #59
BTW, its not a 10 rnd limit, its a 7..... virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #36
It was existing law. The op is a can of bullshit. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #44
Why? jmg257 Jan 2013 #53
Imagine, hunters will actually have to go back to hunting. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #48
or rich Brits who gejohnston Jan 2013 #51
Ouch! Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #106
did UK murder drop? gejohnston Jan 2013 #107
I agree with Parliament and the people on that issue. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #127
but the murder and suicide rates did not drop gejohnston Jan 2013 #128
Sure they did. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #131
A "firearm" in NY is more like pistols and SOSG..not all guns. Not a new provision. jmg257 Jan 2013 #55
You do know... bobclark86 Jan 2013 #62
Not too sure about that... jmg257 Jan 2013 #80
Those are short-barrelled shotguns and rifles you are referring to... bobclark86 Jan 2013 #88
I think you have me confused with another poster. But anyway... jmg257 Jan 2013 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author jmg257 Jan 2013 #93
And do YOU know... Straw Man Jan 2013 #124
Alan Gura probably needs another yacht anyway DonP Jan 2013 #4
It beats asking members for donations. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #8
I thought Rahm was going to get a free Life NRA membership DonP Jan 2013 #11
I feel safer already. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #7
Next up for NY: Require all car owners with defective brakes to install louder horns. chairman meow Jan 2013 #15
And that's just a preview of what's coming - NATIONWIDE. apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #16
Don't hold your breath. Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #19
Hey, look! Up in the sky! Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #23
Whistling past the graveyard. morningfog Jan 2013 #29
Hopefully! It's all about momentum. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #49
So you're OK with this being banned? Straw Man Jan 2013 #112
Sure. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #125
no there won't gejohnston Jan 2013 #126
Maybe when we get the death rate down to Oz and UK levels we'll be allowed out of our rooms again. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #129
murder rates are the same gejohnston Jan 2013 #130
No they aren't. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #133
I didn't say the same as ours gejohnston Jan 2013 #134
Correction! Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #138
you misrepresented what I said gejohnston Jan 2013 #139
The topic here is gun violence. That's why we're here. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #140
yes we are talking about guns, but gejohnston Jan 2013 #141
If you think banning Enfields and cowboy rifles ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #149
I don't think banning anything will save lives. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #154
Logic? Straw Man Jan 2013 #156
I foresee a sudden run on guardian Jan 2013 #22
..and a spate of tragic boating accidents. Lots of deep lakes in NY State... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #58
great, I hope lots of gun nuts go out and commit felonies and get caught. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #137
Of *course* you do, you big strong culture warrior you... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #142
Oh right, I forgot, laws are just for the little people. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #143
-1 for erroneous kneejerk reaction; I don't own a gun, and have said so here numerous times friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #144
And btw, since you broached the subject of Zimmerman- friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #145
I must have hit a nerve. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #147
Don't flatter yourself- your sort has been seen before: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #148
Thank you New York locks Jan 2013 #24
New York gun owners can profit by selling theirs in Vermont. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #26
Why we need NATIONAL HockeyMom Jan 2013 #33
Since that won't get through Congress before 2015 (if then)... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #60
Rec! Good on NY! morningfog Jan 2013 #27
Is there something to even hunt in NY? Phlem Jan 2013 #31
Do you mean other than guardian Jan 2013 #34
Do people really eat skunk? Phlem Jan 2013 #35
It's called varmint hunting... Bay Boy Jan 2013 #38
most people do not eat skunk guardian Jan 2013 #40
that's an outsider for ya. Phlem Jan 2013 #42
~ K ~ In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #37
It's time for gun owners to police their own...3/4 of us don't have them or want them. libdem4life Jan 2013 #56
since most of it is criminal gangs gejohnston Jan 2013 #57
OK...we are now hostage to "criminal gangs"? "community guns"? I lived in LA County libdem4life Jan 2013 #61
always have been gejohnston Jan 2013 #63
Yes, they do. I taught many of their kids and listened to their stories. When it got too bad, they libdem4life Jan 2013 #65
Wyoming was when I was a kid gejohnston Jan 2013 #67
Isn't life interesting...my Mom was born in Laramie in 1919...LOL...have to agree about Rick Scott libdem4life Jan 2013 #69
Grew up in Rock Springs gejohnston Jan 2013 #71
Well even a smaller world...Fairfield is in Sonoma County just over the hill...Santa Rosa here... libdem4life Jan 2013 #72
Especially when... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #64
Just curious, what is there about being found guilty that does not get addressed legally? libdem4life Jan 2013 #66
Nothing I know of. Why? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #68
If they are guilty, they get punished and at least lose their gun rights, right? libdem4life Jan 2013 #70
My point discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #73
I'm really not sure of the point you are making wercal Jan 2013 #77
Just like Muslims should police their own? krispos42 Jan 2013 #102
Can someone check on this? Are pre-1994 hi-cap mags legal to possess in NY? EDIT NO!!! jmg257 Jan 2013 #82
Is it true they forgot to exempt LEOs? Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #83
from what I understand, gejohnston Jan 2013 #84
Not sure - it modifies existing law so without comparing every new section to jmg257 Jan 2013 #85
History is full of... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #86
No - The exemptions section is still active... jmg257 Jan 2013 #87
Ah, guess they still need their automatic death spewers Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #90
Shhh.. Nobody is supposed to talk about that. jeepnstein Jan 2013 #98
So every cop in New York Jenoch Jan 2013 #94
I think 1 year to get mags figured out, too. Cops are exempt. jmg257 Jan 2013 #96
They did not exempt LEOs from the new magazine laws. Jenoch Jan 2013 #135
Yep - I saw that...they did not revise the existing exemptions to include the new jmg257 Jan 2013 #136
They aren't terribly bright. Clames Jan 2013 #103
and the cops are not exempt gejohnston Jan 2013 #104
So why are they going to give the police an exemption? Elmergantry Jan 2013 #115
You have to keep reading...exemptions allow for licenses (CCW type). Nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #105
So you would have to have a CCW in NYS to possess a firearm? Clames Jan 2013 #113
Sure it will...it has been that way for decades. "Firearm" in NY jmg257 Jan 2013 #119
Will everybody qualified to own a gun be granted a permit? OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #151
NY is officially a 'may issue' I guess. If there is no reason for you not to own one, you'll jmg257 Jan 2013 #152
"May issue" aka "may infringe" OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #155
NYS has had these laws for decades. They have withstood challenges. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #157
when were they challenged? gejohnston Jan 2013 #158
Google works for me. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #159
that wasn't a 2A issue and gejohnston Jan 2013 #160
Sure it was, and it is an argument raised here frequently. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #161
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