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In reply to the discussion: Holy cow - NYS about to pass it's SAFE Act. [View all]jmg257
(11,996 posts)116. We were talking about Assault Weapons. Feeding devices are different.
Last edited Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:19 AM - Edit history (1)
Edit: Ahhh - yes - NEW purchases!! Yes - apparently they are a problem for 7+, due to the call out of 'tubular' magazines, which sort of shows all 'magazines' are affected.
LARGE Ammunition Feeding Devices do NOT incude 10 rounders owned before Tuesday.
As long as they only contain 7 rounds (unless at a sanctioned range).
Relevant sections for reference.
Section 38 of the bill amends Penal Law � 265.00(23) to ban all large
capacity magazines that have the capacity to hold more than ten rounds
of ammunition including those that were grandfathered in under the
original assault weapons ban and creates a new ban on magazines that
hold more than seven rounds of ammunition. Magazines that can hold
more than seven rounds but not more than ten rounds and are currently
possessed will be grandfathered in but may only contain seven rounds
of ammunition., Exceptions are made for large capacity magazines that
are curios or relics.
capacity magazines that have the capacity to hold more than ten rounds
of ammunition including those that were grandfathered in under the
original assault weapons ban and creates a new ban on magazines that
hold more than seven rounds of ammunition. Magazines that can hold
more than seven rounds but not more than ten rounds and are currently
possessed will be grandfathered in but may only contain seven rounds
of ammunition., Exceptions are made for large capacity magazines that
are curios or relics.
23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt,
drum, feed strip, or similar device, that (A) has a capacity of, or
that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten
rounds of ammunition, OR (B) CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI
TION, OR (C) IS OBTAINED AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE
LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH AMENDED THIS SUBDIVISION AND HAS A
CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT,
MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION;...however, that such term
does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and
capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition
{exemptions} 265.20 of the penal law,
as amended by chapter 210 of the laws of 1999, is amended and a new
paragraph 7-f is added to read as follows:
7f POSSESSION AND USE OF A MAGAZINE, BELT, FEED STRIP OR SIMILAR
DEVICE, THAT CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION, BUT THAT
DOES NOT HAVE A CAPACITY OF OR CAN READILY BE RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO
ACCEPT MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION, AT AN INDOOR OR OUTDOOR
FIRING RANGE LOCATED IN OR ON PREMISES OWNED OR OCCUPIED BY A DULY
INCORPORATED ORGANIZATION ORGANIZED FOR CONSERVATION PURPOSES OR TO
FOSTER PROFICIENCY IN ARMS;
S 265.36 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING
DEVICE.
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS A LARGE CAPACI
TY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE MANUFACTURED BEFORE SEPTEMBER THIRTEENTH,
NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR, AND IF SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED SUCH
LARGE CAPACITY FEEDING DEVICE BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER
OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS SECTION, THAT HAS
A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT,
MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
S 265.37 UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF CERTAIN AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON TO KNOWINGLY POSSESS AN AMMUNITION
FEEDING DEVICE THAT SUCH PERSON LAWFULLY POSSESSED BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE
DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED
THIS SECTION, THAT HAS A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR
CONVERTED TO ACCEPT MORE THAN SEVEN BUT LESS THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI
TION, WHERE SUCH DEVICE CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
IF SUCH DEVICE CONTAINING MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION IS
POSSESSED WITHIN THE HOME OF THE POSSESSOR
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Most 74x/74xx don't have 1 of the 'features'. Besides, 7400 7600 appear in Appendix A 18 USC 922
jmg257
Jan 2013
#95
It is almost as if New York State thinks they can make their own laws.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2013
#132
Hmmm. Why yes I do believe state governments have the right to make laws.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2013
#150
I see many, MANY road trips to Vermont, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania, with...
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#59
A "firearm" in NY is more like pistols and SOSG..not all guns. Not a new provision.
jmg257
Jan 2013
#55
Next up for NY: Require all car owners with defective brakes to install louder horns.
chairman meow
Jan 2013
#15
Maybe when we get the death rate down to Oz and UK levels we'll be allowed out of our rooms again.
Starboard Tack
Jan 2013
#129
..and a spate of tragic boating accidents. Lots of deep lakes in NY State...
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#58
great, I hope lots of gun nuts go out and commit felonies and get caught.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2013
#137
-1 for erroneous kneejerk reaction; I don't own a gun, and have said so here numerous times
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2013
#144
It's time for gun owners to police their own...3/4 of us don't have them or want them.
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#56
OK...we are now hostage to "criminal gangs"? "community guns"? I lived in LA County
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#61
Yes, they do. I taught many of their kids and listened to their stories. When it got too bad, they
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#65
Isn't life interesting...my Mom was born in Laramie in 1919...LOL...have to agree about Rick Scott
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#69
Well even a smaller world...Fairfield is in Sonoma County just over the hill...Santa Rosa here...
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#72
Just curious, what is there about being found guilty that does not get addressed legally?
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#66
If they are guilty, they get punished and at least lose their gun rights, right?
libdem4life
Jan 2013
#70
Can someone check on this? Are pre-1994 hi-cap mags legal to possess in NY? EDIT NO!!!
jmg257
Jan 2013
#82
Yep - I saw that...they did not revise the existing exemptions to include the new
jmg257
Jan 2013
#136