Gun Control & RKBA

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101. Lanza was a thief

Reply to CreekDog (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:28 PM

Jan 2013

Just how does his mental health status affect his ability to steal?

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How does improved mental health care keep guns out of certain hands? [View all] CreekDog Jan 2013 OP

under the federal Gun Control Act of 1968 gejohnston Jan 2013 #1

does everybody need to be tested? CreekDog Jan 2013 #2

Prone to tama Jan 2013 #4

the key word is adjudicated gejohnston Jan 2013 #5

how would this have stopped Lanza, Holmes, or Laughner? CreekDog Jan 2013 #7

In Lanza's case it appears that his mother was trying to get him into therapy flamin lib Jan 2013 #68

I'd have to look up... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #84

okay, those three were not adjudicated, how does the NRA plan for better mental health keep us safer CreekDog Jan 2013 #11

Don't keep a gun in your home HockeyMom Jan 2013 #28

oh goody, that sounds like a plan CreekDog Jan 2013 #29

that is the fault of their families and communities gejohnston Jan 2013 #43

If they're diagnosed, then what? Drugs? Some drugs increase suicidal feelings. tblue Jan 2013 #27

You could start improving mental health with a questionnaire tama Jan 2013 #3

yeah but what if everyone doesn't want to fill out the questionnaire? CreekDog Jan 2013 #6

If you don't wanna live peacefully in this community and respect other life tama Jan 2013 #8

people get sent to an island for not filling out a questionnaire? CreekDog Jan 2013 #10

Point is tama Jan 2013 #12

save the recorded lecture on whatever weird philosophy unrelated to this OP you're trying to spread CreekDog Jan 2013 #15

Funny that tama Jan 2013 #31

this is a group and the most limited at DU in terms of compassion CreekDog Jan 2013 #33

Ah, didn't look and thought this was in GD. tama Jan 2013 #36

I wish undergroundpanther Jan 2013 #103

In all three cases, plus Cho at VTech, there was a history that was ignored or hidden DonP Jan 2013 #13

If you excluded all people who express crazy, angry feelings or who act crazy and angry JDPriestly Jan 2013 #109

"...doesn't want to fill out the questionnaire" discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #21

So people like me who joined the Air Force during the Vietnam War ... spin Jan 2013 #37

Well tama Jan 2013 #40

Re-education camps have a tarnished history. ... spin Jan 2013 #58

As you noticed tama Jan 2013 #64

I did suspect that you were being sarcastic ... spin Jan 2013 #71

During WWII tama Jan 2013 #72

I have found that most combat vets from places like Vietnam ... spin Jan 2013 #73

it doesn't. it's another talking point to enable more guns to be sold samsingh Jan 2013 #9

on the one hand the NRA says it wants to restrict crazy people gettig guns. Dog Gone at Penigma Jan 2013 #14

No, its really not. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #26

+1 nt Live and Learn Jan 2013 #60

people with guns, whether they are mentally ill or not can kill with the guns samsingh Jan 2013 #85

are you a vegetarian? gejohnston Jan 2013 #86

i'm a vegetarian samsingh Jan 2013 #99

if a plant is still green, gejohnston Jan 2013 #107

talking about taking an argument to the ridiculous samsingh Jan 2013 #110

simply pointing out gejohnston Jan 2013 #111

Hunters are great. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #89

delusions and self justication is great samsingh Jan 2013 #100

Seems anything that doesn't involve gun bans is an "NRA talking-point." Kind of illustrates... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #76

There seems to be two items conflated here sylvi Jan 2013 #16

gun advocates here would probably not want any restriction at the point of sale CreekDog Jan 2013 #17

Im not sure I'm seeing that sylvi Jan 2013 #18

i don't see how it would've changed the most notable shootings of the past 2 years CreekDog Jan 2013 #19

The only place I used the word "sure" sylvi Jan 2013 #23

not sure it does if it's still very easy to get a gun JI7 Jan 2013 #20

Ideally sylvi Jan 2013 #24

of course, even without the violence they should be able to get treatment JI7 Jan 2013 #25

What it does is it enables individuals to have a strategy when they are in crisis. napoleon_in_rags Jan 2013 #22

People would be less likely to think krispos42 Jan 2013 #30

most people in this group don't even support universal health care CreekDog Jan 2013 #34

Supposition on your part. krispos42 Jan 2013 #35

I said "most in this group" --and it's not a supposition CreekDog Jan 2013 #38

Well, I can't speak for that. krispos42 Jan 2013 #39

Count me out of your "most." Straw Man Jan 2013 #69

I love my socialized VA and kind of single payer Tri Care gejohnston Jan 2013 #70

I fully support single payer. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #93

disgusting. ott post and a virtual slam of all posters in this group. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #50

not a slam against all the posters in this group CreekDog Jan 2013 #51

if it is empirical, gejohnston Jan 2013 #54

how do you knowwhat *most* posters in this group think of Health Care? you have links? Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #55

So you just create narratives, huh? And lying is fair game for you? This is why... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #79

What happens if you have crappy mental health care? Bosso 63 Jan 2013 #32

Improving Mental Health care improves society. Taking care and helping is the democratic way. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #41

should we replace speed limits with more driver's education classes? CreekDog Jan 2013 #42

wrong. Driving is a privilege It is Not a Right. Ask any Night Court Judge. Also, Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #44

lol CreekDog Jan 2013 #46

boingboing! we missed you! Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #48

the whole car/gun analogy is silly on many levels gejohnston Jan 2013 #45

true, since the first use of a car is not to kill CreekDog Jan 2013 #47

vehicular manslaughter ring a bell with you, boingboing? Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #49

so a car is designed first and foremost to kill? CreekDog Jan 2013 #52

boingboing! we missed you so! Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #56

boingboing? CreekDog Jan 2013 #59

It's just an observation. Clames Jan 2013 #75

....and an "empirical" one at that! Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #80

He's using a medical definition of "empiracal I believe. Clames Jan 2013 #88

LOL! Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #90

Well, I'm not them and just like before you are embarrassingly mixing me up with another CreekDog Jan 2013 #78

what is embarassing about that? I made an error. BFD. but, this time you are acting just like Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #83

kinda shows that you make errors about this sort of thing CreekDog Jan 2013 #87

they do a better job of it than anything else gejohnston Jan 2013 #57

They are certainly misused more than guns. iiibbb Jan 2013 #61

A guns "first use" is as a deterrent... it's "second use" is as a projectile weap iiibbb Jan 2013 #62

EVERY gun owner is a danger to society. bowens43 Jan 2013 #53

just like every idiot is a danger to society. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #65

Let's get real discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #66

bowens, are you so paranoid that you think tens of millions of fellow-Americans are a danger? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #81

It doesn't. It's a Red Herring yet I am strongly for gun management. libdem4life Jan 2013 #63

One question gejohnston Jan 2013 #67

Something far, far more terrifying...intellingence and critical thinking skills...the ability to put libdem4life Jan 2013 #74

first you have to have the correct information gejohnston Jan 2013 #77

As opposed to the Liberals? Let me restate...mental health is no way no how an answer libdem4life Jan 2013 #91

I didn't say it did gejohnston Jan 2013 #96

Admirable, this "intelligence and critical thinking skills" Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #82

Depends on where one lives. Mobs and hit men and silencers??? libdem4life Jan 2013 #94

deer with a .22? gejohnston Jan 2013 #95

One for hunting one for protection? Is it that hard? Really. libdem4life Jan 2013 #97

Your arguments don't begin to hold up... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #98

Fear and paranoia are very different. And a Prohibitionist means libdem4life Jan 2013 #108

Reduction of suicides would be the main benefit. hack89 Jan 2013 #92

What Hack 89 said!! KnR! undergroundpanther Jan 2013 #104

Lanza was a thief sleestak smile Jan 2013 #101

If people have easier/cheaper access for help with depression, ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #102

No, undergroundpanther Jan 2013 #105

If less gun owners are depressed, then less gun owners will use their guns ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #106