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Call Me Wesley

(38,187 posts)
8. Signed, CMW.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:52 PM
Nov 2012

This is not a reply to the OP (I fully support,) but my own statement on the issue.

Slurs are slurs, no matter what. I'm straight, and nobody really knows that I'm not just a dog typing on the internets. So, while I fully support and won't interfere what kind of definitions you use within your community of friends or family, I totally resent the lack of respect of even 'just' one voice who feels hurt by it. If you're going to use it still and know that you're hurting or insult someone you obviously care about, you're just an ignorant jerk/asshole/idiot/numb-nut. Feeling good being called that? I have other words to hurt you.

Since there was a recent - and still going on - eruption of freespeakers on DU, I can say this: If you truly believe that your ignorance is worth more than one bullied, insulted, hurt individual, then go for it. Defend yourself all you want with crude and non-withstanding personal evidence of 'it's okay,' because your friends get a chuckle out of it and totally understand it like some secret handshake you had since you were ten years old. Totally okay. For you. Perhaps not for others, because their live wasn't/isn't the same like yours. I know it sucks that there are differences and the World not revolving around you. It sucks terribly.

To make this short: What about 'this is hurtful' don't you understand? Do you need to hear it a billion time to perhaps change your own self-centered opinion? One's not enough? How about if it's you, one person, in the empty space of World and I?

What about respect, compassion and tolerance is so immensely difficult to understand?

Signed, BTA Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #1
Recommend (from an ally) Hong Kong Cavalier Nov 2012 #2
so those who self identify on a different basis than you are not welcome? ok nt msongs Nov 2012 #3
I think there is ample reason to have two GLBT groups in view of this MNBrewer Nov 2012 #4
I don't have a problem with another Group William769 Nov 2012 #6
Two groups is not the issue. Jamastiene Nov 2012 #9
You call them slurs MNBrewer Nov 2012 #12
i look at it in the same way as people use ethnic slurs, if you self identify then i dont see an iss loli phabay Nov 2012 #18
Yes, it may be empowering for some Marrah_G Nov 2012 #22
The 'empowering' by 'reclaiming old slurs is a really dated concept. Very 1986. Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #53
Fully support that. closeupready Nov 2012 #5
Thats a given. William769 Nov 2012 #7
I disagree with that suggestion MNBrewer Nov 2012 #13
Democratic Underground should not be helping direct traffic closeupready Nov 2012 #15
You said "hate speech websites" MNBrewer Nov 2012 #16
"Who gets to draw up the list?" List? I don't know what you're talking about. closeupready Nov 2012 #17
I think thats the "American Family Association". William769 Nov 2012 #19
You are doing extremely well. closeupready Nov 2012 #20
If one goes to other websites Bohunk68 Nov 2012 #43
Real journalism is one thing; depraved blog entries are entirely another. closeupready Nov 2012 #44
Signed, CMW. Call Me Wesley Nov 2012 #8
Signed, Vanje Vanje Nov 2012 #10
Consider me onboard. Pug. Puglover Nov 2012 #11
Count me in. It's a new day, and this is another part of our positive forward progress. Zorra Nov 2012 #14
not trying to start a fight or anything, but words that some people call slurs are used commonly loli phabay Nov 2012 #21
Your right it comes down to this "I think it all comes down to know your audience." William769 Nov 2012 #24
yup and thats why the groups are safe havens, but that dosent mean what offends people in the group loli phabay Nov 2012 #25
Signed, Marrah Marrah_G Nov 2012 #23
I don't post in this forum for one simple reason. Walking on 'eggshells' is not my thing. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #26
No one needs to walk on 'eggshells' but people do need to be respectful. William769 Nov 2012 #27
I've pursued this forum and it is 'eggshells'...indeed. No thanks. No worries however, I'm ok with Purveyor Nov 2012 #28
No problem. William769 Nov 2012 #29
Then I must be reading an illusion. plantwomyn Nov 2012 #54
Guess so but 'illusions' can be fun at times so 'knock yourself out' and enjoy. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #56
follow the golden rule Mothdust Nov 2012 #30
That is very good advice, unfortunately a lot of people don't follow it. William769 Nov 2012 #31
+1 Vanje Nov 2012 #32
Signed, Heidi. Heidi Nov 2012 #33
Does this include using the word "gay" to describe myself, the word the letter G in LGBT designates? Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #34
nope Vanje Nov 2012 #35
lol Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #36
I'm sorry you dont have better things to do than to research my old posts Vanje Nov 2012 #37
Sorry not searching out your old posts. Went to welcome and help and it was right there at the top. Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #38
Uh. No Vanje Nov 2012 #39
Pardon me, Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #41
You signed up a week ago, and you're already disrupting the forum. closeupready Nov 2012 #45
Sorry you see it that way. Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #47
This is just an observation. William769 Nov 2012 #48
I have actually participated in other threads and in other forums. Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #49
Q center allows others to self identify, it does not insist on calling people words they Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #55
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #64
The OP is not up to interpertation. William769 Nov 2012 #40
Thanks for the reply. Will do. Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #42
It's that way. Call Me Wesley Nov 2012 #46
If you can't tell the difference between a slur and self-identification Creideiki Nov 2012 #50
Creidiki, I can tell the difference. Scruffy Rumbler Nov 2012 #51
Sigh, it's tricky tricky Prism Nov 2012 #52
I sort of liken it to this: Marrah_G Nov 2012 #57
Yeah, but the question then is . . . Prism Nov 2012 #61
I think its more of a social setting Marrah_G Nov 2012 #62
Post #57 said it best. William769 Nov 2012 #63
This latest language jihad has made me less likely to post, myself MNBrewer Nov 2012 #58
Today, I'm "rude". Tomorrow, I'm a "word police" officer. Do I ever get to win? closeupready Nov 2012 #59
I have a friend who self-identifies with the ""q-word." okasha Nov 2012 #60
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