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Response to antitsa (Reply #50)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:17 PM

54. You shouldn't use words you don't understand

If the radar track of UA 93 shows it went down near Shanksville,

and several eyewitnesses saw it going down toward that crater,

and UA 93's FDR and cockpit recorder were found in that plane-shaped crater,

and the DNA of passengers known to be on UA 93 was also found in and around that crater...

then I conclude -- not "assume" -- that UA 93 crashed into that crater.

You, on the other hand, are asking us to assume that that's not what happened, and therefore conclude that all the evidence that says that's what happened must have been faked. And, or course, we must then conclude that literally hundreds of people -- mostly ordinary citizens -- were recruited into covering up the hoax. And, although you can't come up with anything resembling a rational reason why the alleged conspiracy perps would have attempted this elaborate and incredibly risky hoax, we can safely conclude that they must have had some reason, since that's what they did?

Are you really as perplexed as you seem to be that people would ask you support that outrageously implausible contention with something more than denials and personal incredulity? You'll have to take my word for this: This is not how rational people attempt to figure out what happened.

> Glad you agree the wing-first impact/'cartwheel' story is nonsense, but...
if that is what officials are going with, what will you think then?


I'm not sure why I should have to repeat myself, but I already explained to you why I don't think that hypothesis is likely: Because that's not what the FDR shows, and because a plane-shaped crater would be plausible if the plane was inverted and hit nose first, but not likely if was banked at 90 degrees and hit at a shallow enough angle to hit the wing first. And it shouldn't need repeating that the NTSB report is the "official story" about how the plane hit the ground. If you can ask "if that is what officials are going with, what will you think then," without saying who these "officials" are or why they are "going with that" or why you think it matters, then I rest my case that you simply have no idea how rational people think.

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