Israel/Palestine

shaayecanaan

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97. its quite similar, actually

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 07:40 AM

Jan 2015

israel/hitler annexed chunks of the west bank/sudetenland, prevented palestinians/czechs from entering and encouraged instead ethnic Germans/Jews to move to those annexed areas.

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Hague Court Opens War Crimes Inquiry at Request of Palestinians [View all] bemildred Jan 2015 OP

Oh, so now we know why all the puzzling outrage at a recognized world entity merely wanting to Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #1

Right on Fred! +1000. nt. polly7 Jan 2015 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Jan 2015 #73

Good. 2naSalit Jan 2015 #2

Are they starting with who chose to violate the peace of the world with aggressive war? Fozzledick Jan 2015 #3

Are you referring to the Nakba, fozz? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #4

We all know who started the war to drive who into the sea Fozzledick Jan 2015 #5

We all know that population transfers are illegal as well. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #6

And we all know that voluntary immigration and settlement is not forced population transfer. Fozzledick Jan 2015 #7

and there in lies your problem the forcable only applies to the people under occupation azurnoir Jan 2015 #8

Just wait. The inevitable deflection or tantrum R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #10

For BDS cherry pickers, here's Geneva 49 in context... shira Jan 2015 #28

HAHAHAHAHAHA Did you even read what you posted??? AHAHAHAHAHAHA R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #42

Look at #46 and have a laugh at that one.... shira Jan 2015 #47

Let's look at your major fail instead. AHAHAHAHAHAHA! R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #59

Here are plenty of examples of population transfer, including Palestine... shira Jan 2015 #60

if anything, that contravenes your narrative shaayecanaan Jan 2015 #88

Look at all the following examples of transfer.... shira Jan 2015 #89

Hitler didn't forcefully transfer Germans shaayecanaan Jan 2015 #91

Nice Hitler reference. Doesn't change the fact that all those examples.... shira Jan 2015 #92

Sometimes the despot fits, poor shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #93

Total nonsense. n/t shira Jan 2015 #94

Actually it fits better than you will ever openly admit. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #95

its quite similar, actually shaayecanaan Jan 2015 #97

Again, wrong. Germany had no rights to ANY of the Sudetenland.... shira Jan 2015 #98

Some people really like introducing Hitler/Nazis into this discussion oberliner Jan 2015 #99

Well, when the boot fits... R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #100

The implication of your post is that modern day Israel and Nazi Germany are similar oberliner Jan 2015 #101

Oh, Israel is similar to many repressive regimes. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #102

OK oberliner Jan 2015 #103

They don't compare any other people/state to the Nazis. shira Jan 2015 #105

The Sudentenland was majority-German since Roman times shaayecanaan Jan 2015 #106

You're confused about Balfour... shira Jan 2015 #107

no, youre confused shaayecanaan Jan 2015 #109

Yeah, part of it - not Jordan but everything west of the Jordan River. shira Jan 2015 #110

Your reasoning is fairly sophomoric. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #128

theres absolutely nothing in balfour shaayecanaan Jan 2015 #129

Balfour was endorsed by... shira Jan 2015 #130

a non response shaayecanaan Jan 2015 #131

Oh, sorry. Where is this confirmation in the white paper? n/t shira Jan 2015 #132

LOL...what a crock of horseshit. Here's what deport/transfer really means... shira Jan 2015 #20

well that is a creative interpretation indeed azurnoir Jan 2015 #22

The context of Geneva 49 (look before and after) relates to the Nazis.... shira Jan 2015 #24

The Geneva convention as adapted in 1949 well after the Nazi era azurnoir Jan 2015 #31

Yeah, to prevent that shit from happening again. n/t shira Jan 2015 #37

By anybody, shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #125

Are you really comparing the Jewish state to the Nazis? n/t shira Jan 2015 #126

Did I? Or did I say something completely different? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #127

Actually I never mentioned "forced." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #9

Here's the part of Geneva 49 that all BDS'ers deliberately ignore.... shira Jan 2015 #27

BDS 0 just who are you refering to exactly? azurnoir Jan 2015 #32

Do you ever read, shira, or are you blind??? Too bad you didn't cherrypick well enough. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #40

Israel doesn't transfer any of its population.... shira Jan 2015 #46

Now that's a complete lie cut from whole cloth. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #49

Facts are not complete lies or bullshit. n/t shira Jan 2015 #51

"Its citizens volunteer or choose to go their of their own accord." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #50

How are settlers being forced to live beyond the '48 armistice line? n/t shira Jan 2015 #52

They're invaders, shira. Colonists. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #53

International Law states they have a right to be there.... shira Jan 2015 #54

The mandate is bullshit shira. The Israelis are illegal colonists. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #55

The Mandate is still in effect due to Article 80 of the UN Charter... shira Jan 2015 #56

Sorry, pal. I have a prediction that you won't like... Manny Man Jan 2015 #57

Welcome to DU. Just for Fun how long have you been involved in BDS and where? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #58

Yes, we all know that. Geneva 49 clearly refers to Nazi Germany's.... shira Jan 2015 #21

No some professor named Julius Stone claimed that azurnoir Jan 2015 #23

It's also one of the drafters of the 4th Geneva Convention.... shira Jan 2015 #26

Morris Abram is also the founder of the Rightwing UN Watch and has been dead for 15 years azurnoir Jan 2015 #29

No, he's totally correct as Geneva 49 states clearly..... shira Jan 2015 #36

don't have to I posted the entire thing and seems there a few paragraphs between the dots azurnoir Jan 2015 #38

Anyone paying attention here knows you deliberately.... shira Jan 2015 #39

I didn't leave out a darned thing and look again I reposted it no I'll repost it here too azurnoir Jan 2015 #41

and here to prove your false allegation is post #8 the only one prior to these where I posted art49 azurnoir Jan 2015 #43

Volunteering or choosing to live there, which is their right by law.... shira Jan 2015 #48

goal post changing you level false allegations about what I posted and try to change the subject? azurnoir Jan 2015 #61

Yep, I missed that. Sorry. My point still stands, however. n/t shira Jan 2015 #62

What that a document from 1920 takes some sort of legal precedence? azurnoir Jan 2015 #63

Article 80 makes the Mandate still valid today... shira Jan 2015 #64

Unfortunately in accepting the UN partition of Palestine Israel itself negated the aged League of Na azurnoir Jan 2015 #66

UNGAR's like the Partition Plan are suggestions.... shira Jan 2015 #67

an advisory opinion is not a ruling it is an opinion nothing more azurnoir Jan 2015 #70

No, that's an ICJ judge's understanding of Int'l Law.... shira Jan 2015 #77

and there were a number of different opinions on that issue but at least you admit azurnoir Jan 2015 #79

also you seem to think an advisory opinion is the same as a law not so moreover azurnoir Jan 2015 #68

Nope, that was an ICJ judge in '71 stating the Mandate was still in effect. shira Jan 2015 #69

Can you link us up to the ICJ's website as I said all I get for that date relates to South Africa azurnoir Jan 2015 #71

Here it is... shira Jan 2015 #78

again it relates to South Africa one opinion is not law and when did the UN partition SA? azurnoir Jan 2015 #80

So ICJ rulings are politically motivated opinions? shira Jan 2015 #90

and the ICJ's 2004 ruling against Israel's 'security wall' would seem to negate any of your claims azurnoir Jan 2015 #81

So again, ICJ rulings are willy-nilly, politically based? Not consistent? shira Jan 2015 #113

well here's what it says at the link and i does not hold up to your claims azurnoir Jan 2015 #104

Thank you. But when you post the truth and the other R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #108

well no response as of yet anyway azurnoir Jan 2015 #111

They're off spreading lies elsewhere. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #114

You're missing the point. The Mandate for Jews settling anywhere west of the Jordan River.... shira Jan 2015 #115

Nobody believes you nonsense, shira. Go harp you fantasies eleswhere. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #116

Great substantive response there. n/t shira Jan 2015 #117

Thanks, I know. Right to the point without the need for posting propaganda. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #118

Not sure you know. Yours was a post offering nothing of value on the topic. n/t shira Jan 2015 #119

Perhaps you need some reading comprehension skills? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #120

My reading comprehension is fine. Your contribution here adds nothing.... shira Jan 2015 #121

No, I believe that your comprehension is lacking, IMHO. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #122

But you've been selling that ICJ ruling or a really a dissenting opinion from a 3rd party as proof azurnoir Jan 2015 #123

You're still maintaining a non-binding UNGA resolution like the Partition Plan.... shira Jan 2015 #124

Dare say that in France King_David Jan 2015 #45

Is that supposed to be some sort of threat or what? azurnoir Jan 2015 #75

Some people feel compelled to threats when they have nothing to add. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #96

A formality. Nothing will come of it hack89 Jan 2015 #11

Most courts take an extremely dim view of frivolous claims Fozzledick Jan 2015 #12

The ICC is a political organization not an independent voice for justice hack89 Jan 2015 #13

The US isn't a member and has no say bbut do keep hoping azurnoir Jan 2015 #16

As a member of the UN security council we have a huge say hack89 Jan 2015 #25

once again the US has no say or authority over the ICC period azurnoir Jan 2015 #30

You keep believing that hack89 Jan 2015 #33

The US signed the Rome Statutes (again we with drew) when? azurnoir Jan 2015 #34

Never. That is not the point hack89 Jan 2015 #35

The ICC is not taking on the US though unless you are opining that the US azurnoir Jan 2015 #65

Time will tell hack89 Jan 2015 #76

When did America ever have no say over anything...that was a good one. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #83

Most courts yes but there will be Zero Fairness toward Israel by the ICC King_David Jan 2015 #14

Do you want some dip to go R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #15

oddly ........... azurnoir Jan 2015 #17

My, how the hyperbole flows out of Israel R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #18

So ? they idiots but got this right ... King_David Jan 2015 #19

No it's not. Manny Man Jan 2015 #84

Sounds like you are a world Arbiter? World Authority ? Decider of All ? King_David Jan 2015 #85

No. I'm not... Manny Man Jan 2015 #86

'Even Wiki says so' King_David Jan 2015 #87

No idea what the ICC does or the nature of this complaint and its investigative procedure, do you? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #82

Good to know. ncjustice80 Jan 2015 #44

It's about time. nt. polly7 Jan 2015 #74

Kick n/t azurnoir Jan 2015 #112