Israel/Palestine

Ken Burch

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17. I did when I said it's wrong for anybody to have nukes.

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 10:34 PM

Apr 2012

It's not worse for the Iranians to have them just because they're the Iranians. All countries are wrong to possess nukes.

An attack on Iran can't make any of this better. Bibi needs to give that shit a rest.

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Gunter Grass and the mute left [View all] shira Apr 2012 OP

It's a bit hard to take seriously a man Riftaxe Apr 2012 #1

Grass was 13 in 1940 pscot Apr 2012 #2

When alexander was 13 he was hiring philosophers from around the then known world Riftaxe Apr 2012 #26

And how exactly do you know what was going on in his head at age 17? Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #15

Hmm if i had to guess... Riftaxe Apr 2012 #27

No matter about the man, his message, (not this insane projection) is important. saras Apr 2012 #3

Clear, concise and to the point. Well said. TalkingDog Apr 2012 #4

Israel is endangering world peace, not Iran? That's what Grass is saying. shira Apr 2012 #5

The Israeli government...not "The Jews" Ken Burch Apr 2012 #8

No, the Jews. The anti-Israel bigots are against every Israeli gov't, not just Netanyahu's. shira Apr 2012 #10

The fact that it was Israeli governments of various parties STILL doesn't make it about "the Jews" Ken Burch Apr 2012 #11

You're changing the subject. Gunter Grass is a nazi claiming Israel is about to annihilate... shira Apr 2012 #12

No it is not a blood libel. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #19

He wrote that Israel will annihilate or snuff out the Iranian people w/ a first strike.... shira Apr 2012 #22

ROFL! Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #25

Maybe it has something to do with every Israeli government following essentially the same policy. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #16

That's really something jimmie Apr 2012 #6

It's no difference between them having it and everybody else who has it. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #9

You didn't answer the question. n/t shira Apr 2012 #13

I did when I said it's wrong for anybody to have nukes. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #17

what is this "world peace"....thing? pelsar Apr 2012 #20

It's the Israeli government that has nukes, not "The Jews" Ken Burch Apr 2012 #7

So you believe, as Glass does, that Israel will nuke Iran preemptively, committing genocide? n/t shira Apr 2012 #14

I don't believe the result would be "genocide"(it's not like ALL Iranians would be killed) Ken Burch Apr 2012 #18

So you believe eventually "Bibi will nuke Iran preemptively". shira Apr 2012 #21

I just SAID it wouldn't lead to annihilation Ken Burch Apr 2012 #23

When did he disown the poem? oberliner Apr 2012 #24

So why do you believe Grass disowned the poem? For what reason(s) would he do so? n/t shira Apr 2012 #28

Obviously, that the poem had gone to far Ken Burch Apr 2012 #29

Gone too far, how? Where/when did he admit this? Also... shira Apr 2012 #30

Stop with the inquisition already! Ken Burch Apr 2012 #32

Can you link to where he said any of this? oberliner Apr 2012 #31

I am still researching, but may have been wrong about Ken Burch Apr 2012 #33

No there isn't oberliner Apr 2012 #34

Here's the problem again with Grass's poem... shira Apr 2012 #35

That's an insane interpretation Ken Burch Apr 2012 #36

Really? I must believe Bibi has to launch missiles at Iran? R U serious? shira Apr 2012 #37

Of course I don't want Iran to do anything to Israel Ken Burch Apr 2012 #38

So stop defending Grass, b/c he didn't write anything like that shira Apr 2012 #40

He just wrote a poem. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #41

He wrote an hysterical, ignorant, hateful screed.... shira Apr 2012 #42

Yes, Grass is against any state having nuclear capability. reorg Apr 2012 #44

It doesn't appear Grass is against Iran for having them... shira Apr 2012 #45

You must not have paid much attention reorg Apr 2012 #46

Please provide a link King_David Apr 2012 #39

Perhaps I can help reorg Apr 2012 #43