Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Palestinian Villages May Soon Go Dark: Israeli Government To Remove Solar Panels And Wind Turbines [View all]pelsar
(12,283 posts)it appears you, like so many others, you need someone to tell you what is right and what is wrong...what to think and what not to...i will listen but no one, be they an "authority" or a kid will i let have that right
clearly we have a strong disagreement on a very fundamental philosophy who is responsible for our own opinions and morals.
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but you make the basic attempt at "moral equiivaleny" as an attempt to equate irans stance with israel. I see this a lot around here: (you shouldn't really listen to some "authorities" sometimes they are wrong).
Basically your equating the destruction of physical elements (nuclear factories) with the destruction of a state or near destruction. Israels stance is to destroy buildings with as little loss of life as possible, Irans stance is exactly the opposite to destroy a country and with it the zionists.
2)iranian govt officials have made it clear they want to remove israel
Israels PM has made it clear that Israel will not accept a nuclear-armed Iran.
perhaps your "authorities" believe that is a moral stance, I don't believe destroying some buildings is the same moral plane as the destruction of a state
apparently you do.....that is the crucial element in your complete argument that you have yet to address.
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In other words, the crap that you wrote about dictatorships having no right to defend themselves was just your own idiosyncratic opinion..........Whose law says they are illegal?.......Or is this "illegal" business just another of your uninformed opinions?
its just based on my own moral stance. No government that does not allow its citizens an ability to freely change the governing "authorties", to have freedom of speech simply has no right to govern. No one told me that, thats my belief as a liberal.
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i asked you if you believe dictatorships are moral entities....the question still stands.
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and the 73 war?...
Morning of Yom Kippur War:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3965041,00.htm
Cabinet rejects call for preemptive strike
Six hours before war breaks out, Golda convenes cabinet for consultation. IDF chief Dado says preemptive strike would give Israel 'huge advantage and save many lives,' but prime minister and Dayan reject idea: 'It's tempting, but world will portray us as the aggressors.' ....We still have four hours for dialogue with the Americans. (other interviews etc made it clear what the american opinion was.....no attack)
Since 73, the Israeli public has been receiving tons of information and interviews from the front and from the archives....The front line soldiers remain bitter to this day of the political sacrifice made.
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well? whats your opinion, should israel have struck first since the intel was all there about the attack....or should they have taken additional losses for the sake of "political expediency?"