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azurnoir

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3. Israel is using the same ploy it did with Goldstone
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 12:37 PM
Mar 2012

refuse to co-operate and then cry foul when the report is released, however this time there is no 'fog of war' type situation to distort facts

Now if only the rest of the world would do that. n/t aranthus Mar 2012 #1
Do what? Behave sensibly and have Israel dismiss them as "surrealistic"? Done already. saras Mar 2012 #2
Disassociate with the UNHRC oberliner Mar 2012 #4
Agree 100% n/t MrBig Mar 2012 #12
Disassociating from the UNHRC would be the sensible and decent thing to do. n/t aranthus Mar 2012 #7
+1 King_David Mar 2012 #11
Israel is using the same ploy it did with Goldstone azurnoir Mar 2012 #3
They are crying foul in advance oberliner Mar 2012 #5
well if memory serves Israel cried foul in advance of Goldstone too azurnoir Mar 2012 #6
And they were right to then, and now. aranthus Mar 2012 #8
ya that ploy worked out quite well for them 3 years ago azurnoir Mar 2012 #9
You still think the UNHRC is credible? n/t shira Mar 2012 #10
well it would seem that Israel, Iran, and North Korea all have something in common azurnoir Mar 2012 #13
So that's a yes. FYI, Syria just retained their seat at the UNHRC... shira Mar 2012 #14
yepper it did your article:US Votes in Favor of Watered-Down Measure but then you must believe that azurnoir Mar 2012 #15
Clearly, human rights don't mean much to anyone... shira Mar 2012 #16
so ok thanks then human rights in Iran and N.Korea along with rights for the handicapped azurnoir Mar 2012 #17
The UNHRC doesn't do nearly enough with Iran, Korea, and the worst offenders... shira Mar 2012 #19
Iran and N.Korea like Israel are blocking any investigation by the UNHRC azurnoir Mar 2012 #20
So that means Israel is as bad as Iran and N.Korea? Or just like Iran and NK? n/t shira Mar 2012 #22
well it means to me that for some reason those countries do not want the UNHRC looking too closely azurnoir Mar 2012 #34
In Israel's case, there's good reason considering the Goldstone report... shira Mar 2012 #35
no and in fact your comments about the Goldstone report verify what I said about Israel's ploy azurnoir Mar 2012 #37
The Goldstone Report was well worth the enormous amount... shira Mar 2012 #38
the purpose of the report was to assess what happened during OCL azurnoir Mar 2012 #39
So that's a yes. It was well worth the time and resources.... shira Mar 2012 #41
yes it was quite worth it because it did create change azurnoir Mar 2012 #42
So the Goldstone commission and all the time/effort the UN put into condemning... shira Mar 2012 #43
ah offended at the what Goldstone forced Israel to do regarding its actions during OCL? azurnoir Mar 2012 #46
Yeah, that's it. It's not like there's anything worse going on... shira Mar 2012 #47
"one takes the so-called "pro Palestinian" movement seriously" 112+ countries recognize Palestine azurnoir Mar 2012 #18
Those who think the UNHRC is credible despite Syria's participation there... shira Mar 2012 #21
as could be said for those who do not seem concerned about rights for the handicapped azurnoir Mar 2012 #23
What are you talking about? If I don't support the UNHRC with Syria there... shira Mar 2012 #24
well shira you seem to be claiming that because I support the UNHRC even with Syrian participation azurnoir Mar 2012 #25
But it's not just Syria and you know that... shira Mar 2012 #26
oh another poutrage moment? a report from 2010? azurnoir Mar 2012 #27
Sure, no biggie. Even Amnesty called the report praising Gaddafi 'abhorrent'. shira Mar 2012 #28
ya that's the title UNWatch gave it's article but 'strangely' doesn't mention Amnesty USA again azurnoir Mar 2012 #29
That's the title b/c that's what the Amnesty USA chief tweeted... shira Mar 2012 #30
what does that have to do with the article? azurnoir Mar 2012 #31
The Amnesty USA chief stated correctly that the UNHRC report on Libya... shira Mar 2012 #32
shira sez "You believe the UNHRC is a credible organization, solely due to its Israel bashing." azurnoir Mar 2012 #33
That's right. By all means, feel free to correct me... shira Mar 2012 #36
Besides allowing a report from 2010 about a dead man to stand azurnoir Mar 2012 #40
The UNHRC continues to do terrible work WRT women's rights worldwide... shira Mar 2012 #44
I would say you shouldd read your own link, there were no conclusions made azurnoir Mar 2012 #45
The point is that the UNHRC is doing next to nothing to protect women worldwide... shira Mar 2012 #48
ah so you claim the UN doesn't care about women azurnoir Jun 2012 #54
Not when Saudi Arabia is elected to the council on women's rights... shira Jun 2012 #57
can you name the the MAN from Saudi Arabia who is on the council on Womens Rights? azurnoir Jun 2012 #58
Seriously? You think b/c a female from S.A. is on the council... shira Jun 2012 #60
If SA did not want to be on the UN council for Womens Rights it would not be there azurnoir Jun 2012 #63
So why do you think a nation that treats women abhorrently like SA would want to be.... shira Jun 2012 #65
So Arab women can not be trusted to know about what needs to be done for women's rights azurnoir Jun 2012 #68
Sigh... If she doesn't tote the Saudi line, her head is next on the chop block. n/t shira Jun 2012 #69
rrrright yep so let's keep Arab women off of the council huh? azurnoir Jun 2012 #71
No, let's keep SA off the council. You think the female representative... shira Jun 2012 #73
so let's discriminate against Saudi Arabian women because they're so discriminated against azurnoir Jun 2012 #74
Is that really your argument? Shaktimaan Jun 2012 #78
I expect virtually all governments to behave the same way. aranthus Jun 2012 #64
Canada quits UN tourism body over Mugabe appointment shira Jun 2012 #49
'Odd' that you would praise a reactionary government on a progressive board azurnoir Jun 2012 #50
Guardian (May 29) Robert Mugabe asked to be UN 'leader for tourism' shira Jun 2012 #51
and once again from your link the claim is BS azurnoir Jun 2012 #52
Seems that all the people complaining understand it differently... shira Jun 2012 #53
your right it's more of the same azurnoir Jun 2012 #55
Why do you trust everything coming out of the UN, including all their whitewashing? shira Jun 2012 #56
ah let he who is without sin is it ? so in your opinion what country is worthy azurnoir Jun 2012 #59
So you don't have a problem with Pakistan on the UN Human Rights Council... shira Jun 2012 #61
Didn't want to answer did you? but Pakistan needs direction on Human Rights azurnoir Jun 2012 #62
Any western nation that guarantees equal rights for all... shira Jun 2012 #66
lol so only 'Western' nations are worthy of being on the UNHRC azurnoir Jun 2012 #67
That's right. Only Western nations recognize universal human rights. shira Jun 2012 #70
well there is something pretty incredible here but I'll wager we differ as to what it is n/t azurnoir Jun 2012 #72
While I agree that tyrannical regimes and chronic human rights abusers are not worthy and have no Dick Dastardly Jun 2012 #75
I'd have no problem with S.Korea and Japan... shira Jun 2012 #76
so you would isolate the worst human rights offenders? azurnoir Jun 2012 #77
The worst human rights offenders should certainly be isolated in various ways (like keeping them off Dick Dastardly Jun 2012 #79
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