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In reply to the discussion: Palestinian Villages May Soon Go Dark: Israeli Government To Remove Solar Panels And Wind Turbines [View all]pelsar
(12,283 posts)185. ah...so you don't like it when I speculate, but you can predict?
All that we actually know is that Hitler was defeated...Your might comment is pure speculation.
yes it is and given that i can't go back in time, change the history its pure speculation......just as all of your predictions are
i don't put dictatorships on the same moral plane as democracies (i believe you do). In fact all dictatorships in my mind should be threatened with removal from the very day the dictator takes power. Dictatorships by their very existence are immoral and must be removed...one way or another.
Hitler as a dictator had no moral right to do anything but resign. Iran as a theocratic dictatorship has no moral right to exist, let alone produce nuclear weapons. I shall repeat, all dictatorships should be constantly threatened and restricted, they have no moral grounds to exist. Hence they have no moral grounds to attack anybody for any reason.
clear enough?
so you trust Netanyahu?
Netanyahu, judging by his speeches, does not believe that Iran is a nuclear threat to Israel at the present time
maybe he's just toying with the Iranians, and the US.....i believe last year the threat was "imminent."
Your authorities at work: wasn't the UN publishing news reports for years how Iran had no intention of working on nuclear weapons and then all of sudden decides that oops they were:
November 2011: The IAEA claims for the first time that Iran is has worked on weapons-related activities for years, publishing detailed information based on more than 1,000 pages of design information that is corroborated, it says, by data from 10 member states and its own investigation and interviews.
see how that works?....the authorities/politicians misleading the public for years.....
so in case you missed it, i claim no special knowledge on what iran has or doesn't have, i do know they iran has threatened and claimed that israel must be removed and is actively aiding hizballa and hamas in their own goals, which are similar.They are all ready attacking israel indirectly, a nuclear strike from iran is simply more direct, but perhaps they will use Hizballa for that...., hence the metaphor with the gun is not applicable.
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now your turn.....about Libya, Sudan, Syria, interfere? kill civilians, help develop a new dictatorship or let them kill their own within their own borders because the dictators "own" their own people as per the UN charter (and your own moral stance)
yes it is and given that i can't go back in time, change the history its pure speculation......just as all of your predictions are
i don't put dictatorships on the same moral plane as democracies (i believe you do). In fact all dictatorships in my mind should be threatened with removal from the very day the dictator takes power. Dictatorships by their very existence are immoral and must be removed...one way or another.
Hitler as a dictator had no moral right to do anything but resign. Iran as a theocratic dictatorship has no moral right to exist, let alone produce nuclear weapons. I shall repeat, all dictatorships should be constantly threatened and restricted, they have no moral grounds to exist. Hence they have no moral grounds to attack anybody for any reason.
clear enough?
so you trust Netanyahu?
Netanyahu, judging by his speeches, does not believe that Iran is a nuclear threat to Israel at the present time
maybe he's just toying with the Iranians, and the US.....i believe last year the threat was "imminent."
Your authorities at work: wasn't the UN publishing news reports for years how Iran had no intention of working on nuclear weapons and then all of sudden decides that oops they were:
November 2011: The IAEA claims for the first time that Iran is has worked on weapons-related activities for years, publishing detailed information based on more than 1,000 pages of design information that is corroborated, it says, by data from 10 member states and its own investigation and interviews.
see how that works?....the authorities/politicians misleading the public for years.....
so in case you missed it, i claim no special knowledge on what iran has or doesn't have, i do know they iran has threatened and claimed that israel must be removed and is actively aiding hizballa and hamas in their own goals, which are similar.They are all ready attacking israel indirectly, a nuclear strike from iran is simply more direct, but perhaps they will use Hizballa for that...., hence the metaphor with the gun is not applicable.
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now your turn.....about Libya, Sudan, Syria, interfere? kill civilians, help develop a new dictatorship or let them kill their own within their own borders because the dictators "own" their own people as per the UN charter (and your own moral stance)
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Palestinian Villages May Soon Go Dark: Israeli Government To Remove Solar Panels And Wind Turbines [View all]
stockholmer
Feb 2012
OP
Ma'an has a series of articles on the Israeli demolitions of European funded Area C projects
azurnoir
Feb 2012
#4
Cut off. No power, no sanitation, no medical, no jobs, no food, no education... did I miss anything.
kickysnana
Feb 2012
#10
"Over 100,000 of the Ghetto's residents died due to rampant disease or starvation..."
oberliner
Feb 2012
#12
Wait, what? You are claiming Israelis are really nazis in search of a "final solution"?
Ruby the Liberal
Feb 2012
#37
One comment made in 1959 vs constant, repeated bleatings complete with hosting holocaust denial?
Ruby the Liberal
Feb 2012
#76
I don't think you can make predictions based on the technical vagaries of religions...
shaayecanaan
Feb 2012
#115
How many Iranian civilians is Israel prepared to kill in order to delay the Iranian nuclear program?
kayecy
Mar 2012
#123
at least we now understand your morality...but how many to kill to protect your kids?
pelsar
Mar 2012
#131
Is that an approximate extension of your hypothesis to Israel’s attack on Iran?...
kayecy
Mar 2012
#142
Time magazine? and "senior israeli official' Atlantic Magazine....LOL.I got some too!!
pelsar
Mar 2012
#149
And your considered opinion is still that Israel should proceed to attack Iran?
kayecy
Mar 2012
#156
it (Israel) deliberately, indiscriminately and recklessly bombed civilian targets .........
kayecy
Mar 2012
#162
Hitler thought he knew what would happen when he invaded Russia....He was wrong.....
kayecy
Mar 2012
#166
Kayecy, why do you persist in defining an Israeli strike on nuclear facilities...
shira
Mar 2012
#182
....60 million+ dead, the enslavement on Eastern Europe in your eyes was the moral choice?
pelsar
Mar 2012
#183
It is not a question of like or dislike, merely that historical speculation is a waste of time......
kayecy
Mar 2012
#186
of course its my own "idiosyncratic opinion".....its my ethics and my morals...
pelsar
Apr 2012
#191
Kayecy, Iran is behind Hezbollah, Hamas, and P.I.J. rocket attacks on Israel now....
shira
Mar 2012
#180
So, you think Israel would be totally justified in demolishing those solar panels and wind turbines?
Violet_Crumble
Feb 2012
#18
You aren't seriously arguing that building solar panels is about "Demonizing Israel".
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#47
The solar panels do no harm. There's no way that they could threaten Israeli security.
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#46
Same BS anti-Israel demonization. Different day. Apparently, haters need their daily fix. N/T
shira
Feb 2012
#25
Why the obsession over the permitting process? And what difference does "the legal framework" make?
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#52
Why can't the Israeli side admit that, in a situation like this, where the construction is harmless
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#58
The EU isn't trying to harm Israel. Not filling out these forms doesn't threaten Israel.
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#69
If it's in a military Occupation zone, an area that's certain to end up in Palestine anyway
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#70
Is there some reason that it's more threatening to have them install them in Area C?
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#73
Double standard time. Nasty antisemitic comments exist on the FGM and BDS facebook pages...
shira
Feb 2012
#35
Left-wingers were fighting Hitler and Mussolini while most of the Right were backing them
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#68
The government, NOT the people-the two are not the same in ANY democratic society
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#79
I read about her in that entry...but don't know enough about her to have an opinion
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#84
It's not "slandering" simply to make an observation-Clearly it applies to most of the government
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#89
what i take "personally" is your slandering of a main stream politicians..as if they are monsters.
pelsar
Feb 2012
#96
Well, yes, obviously they see the situation differently. That goes without saying.
Ken Burch
Feb 2012
#112