Israel/Palestine

azurnoir

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22. who would Abbas have made a "counter offer" to? Olmert resigned shortly after making the offer

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 07:11 PM

Mar 2012

and elections were held a few months later which resulted in Netanyahu being PM

Hamas is not Hezbollah no matter how much you wish it and allowing a future Palestinian state a military is no different from allowing Egypt, Jordan or Lebanon a military

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AIPAC, Israel, and the Hypocritical Claim of Backing a Two-State Solution [View all] Purveyor Mar 2012 OP

At this point in history, a two-state solution is wishful thinking. redgreenandblue Mar 2012 #1

Too bad... holdencaufield Mar 2012 #2

The Jews aren't going away. The Arabs aren't either. redgreenandblue Mar 2012 #3

Israel... holdencaufield Mar 2012 #4

Wasn't the initial idea behind the partitioning to create "two states for two peoples"? redgreenandblue Mar 2012 #5

What's with this map nonsense and not enough territory for an independent Palestinian state? shira Mar 2012 #6

Would have, could have, should have. In the end it doesn't matter "whose fault" it was. redgreenandblue Mar 2012 #7

Obviously it does matter whose fault it is to you... shira Mar 2012 #12

I think that's an excellent summation. Pretty much exactly how I see the situation. Crunchy Frog Mar 2012 #8

really? Shaktimaan Mar 2012 #9

Until the late 80's, Israel anathemized anybody who dared suggest Ken Burch Mar 2012 #13

Two states was nice in theory back in the early/mid 80's but impractical... shira Mar 2012 #14

Israel had been occupying the West Bank since 1967 azurnoir Mar 2012 #16

So what? Again, what could Israel have offered in terms of a homeland... shira Mar 2012 #17

uh....freedom? Ken Burch Mar 2012 #21

uh.........what about land for peace? You're saying all you want... shira Mar 2012 #23

It was never legitimate to expect West Bank Palestinians to have to be Jordanians Ken Burch Mar 2012 #25

Another strawman. You must be talking to yourself b/c I never mentioned that... shira Mar 2012 #28

You were the one who just brought up Jordan. Ken Burch Mar 2012 #29

right. Shaktimaan Mar 2012 #31

Ken, I brought up Jordan and you made up a strawman rather than discuss this intelligently. n/t shira Mar 2012 #33

esse Jackson was driven out of politics for supporting what Netanyahu claims to support now... holdencaufield Mar 2012 #24

1000+plus delegates in 1988 was NOT an "abysmal failure" Ken Burch Mar 2012 #26

while a 2 state solution is still the preferred option by most Israeli Jews and Palestinians azurnoir Mar 2012 #10

Please, be real shira Mar 2012 #11

Olmerts offer lol do you really want to there-again? azurnoir Mar 2012 #15

Abbas definitely refused the offer. To this day, he still says the gaps were too wide... shira Mar 2012 #18

here in Olmerts own words azurnoir Mar 2012 #19

Oh sure, never formally rejected.... shira Mar 2012 #20

who would Abbas have made a "counter offer" to? Olmert resigned shortly after making the offer azurnoir Mar 2012 #22

To Olmert, immediately. Let the world know that, like Sadat, he is serious about peace... shira Mar 2012 #27

Olmert was a bit too busy resigning and and perhaps addressing corruption charges at the time azurnoir Mar 2012 #30

Abbas has never been commited to genuine peace. Deal with it. shira Mar 2012 #32

well that is your opinion but it would seem azurnoir Mar 2012 #34

I remain dedicated to a peaceful 2 state resolution, unlike yourself... shira Mar 2012 #35