Israel/Palestine

R. Daneel Olivaw

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66. And you come back with the plied old excuse of wife beaters and violators everywhere.

Tue Oct 22, 2013, 10:34 PM

Oct 2013

If we didn't terrorize and forcibly remove the Palestinians from their homes and villages at gunpoint, well at least the ones we didn't kill, then how would we very have ever formed a country?

If you can only form a country on the backs of others then it isn't much of a country.

Well, shira, at least you admit to being a fan of Benny Morris and ethnikkk cleansing.

Now all you have to do is to forcibly admit that apartheid is actually a good thing for the Israelis. If you can be so callously abrupt about ethnic cleansing then I guess an admission of apartheid is around the corner.

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Even the World Bank Understands: Palestine is Being Disappeared [View all] polly7 Oct 2013 OP

Typical BS from Jonathan Cook oberliner Oct 2013 #1

Awesome. polly7 Oct 2013 #2

It's not only the messenger ... King_David Oct 2013 #3

Well, Oberliner has a point... Scootaloo Oct 2013 #7

It's a slight varient of the "thankyou for smoking" method of debate azurnoir Oct 2013 #16

Well, it's either that or the gish gallop... Scootaloo Oct 2013 #17

I think I like that one better Gish Gallop azurnoir Oct 2013 #18

Indeed! +1 eom Purveyor Oct 2013 #37

That's been happening quite a bit too often. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #91

Lying propagandist & bigot Jonathan Cook; fan & supporter of Gilad Atzmon.... shira Oct 2013 #4

i just finished reading some articles from these two madrchsod Oct 2013 #8

Atzmon is fucking nuts Scootaloo Oct 2013 #15

Jonathan Cook is a fan of his, as are Richard Falk, John Mearsheimer, Greta Berlin, etc... shira Oct 2013 #22

More demands to "admit" something? Scootaloo Oct 2013 #25

I can call out and condemn the likes of Caroline Glick for her absurd, bigoted views.... shira Oct 2013 #27

And then demand people "admit she's right" Scootaloo Oct 2013 #29

Atzmon is easy to condemn. You don't get bonus points for that. shira Oct 2013 #47

Well, except I already have Scootaloo Oct 2013 #49

So let's take Tony Greenstein shira Oct 2013 #51

What are you claiming? Joanthan Cook wrote of "Jewish persecution of Hitler". Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #9

No, Jonathan Cook is a fan of Gilad Atzmon, and Atzmon writes about Jews/Hitler.... shira Oct 2013 #10

Uh huh, Hurry Up Harry's Place analysis..ok. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #12

From a fan of Richard Landes and Caroline Glick, no less... n/t Scootaloo Oct 2013 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author shira Oct 2013 #21

Another lie. And from a fan of gutter trash like Tony Greenstein no less. n/t shira Oct 2013 #23

Except it's perfectly true Scootaloo Oct 2013 #24

Big difference b/w us.... shira Oct 2013 #26

Well, at least you can admit being a hypocrite Scootaloo Oct 2013 #28

But I'm not. I'll condemn/criticize anything if simply asked. I don't mind being questioned.... shira Oct 2013 #46

Well, no, you are. Go back and read the posts, Shira Scootaloo Oct 2013 #48

But I don't generally agree with Glick's views on I/P. You guys tend to march in lock-step.... shira Oct 2013 #50

Please share your knowledge with me, Oberliner. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #5

I'm glad somebody asked oberliner Oct 2013 #11

And you know those are lies because......? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #13

three other sources on this problem madrchsod Oct 2013 #6

The source of the problem is the parasite that is totally consuming Palestine. delrem Oct 2013 #19

"Gongylonema pulchruma," ? King_David Oct 2013 #31

every picture tells a story polly7..... Israeli Oct 2013 #20

Thank you azurnoir Oct 2013 #30

I wouldn't describe those simple illustrations as maps azurnoir Israeli Oct 2013 #34

Yea if you posting an accurate picture sure . King_David Oct 2013 #32

Well, dave, to now debunk your crap... R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #33

Some choice quotes and real 'mature' debating technique from R. Daneel Olivaw on this thread alone . King_David Oct 2013 #38

And again dave runs while validating my post. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #45

Why do u think Israel accepts Jews of all types? Explain to us the reason. n/t shira Oct 2013 #52

I'm more concerned with why Israel pushes out Palestinians R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #53

Yeas a lot of people are obsessed with IP King_David Oct 2013 #54

Well, dave, I guess that you must mean Shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #56

Shira has a reason, King_David Oct 2013 #61

Reason? She aparently now admits that the ethnic cleansing of 700,000 Palestinians R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #63

Yep it is all about motivation, King_David Oct 2013 #65

You guys are really phoning it in tonight with the excuses. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #68

Most uninvolved non Jewish Non Muslim 'activists' King_David Oct 2013 #69

This is I/P, dave. Perhaps you don't understand that. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #71

Diversion. You guys never answer the simplest questions. nt shira Oct 2013 #55

Tell us again how you agree with benny Morris and his views on ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #57

So b/w ethnic cleansing or genocide, you prefer that the Jews be wiped out.... shira Oct 2013 #58

Don't change the subject to fly from your own hypocrisy. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #59

Between the annihilation of the Jews and having to ethnically cleanse Palestinians.... shira Oct 2013 #60

I'm sure all despots and their bootlickers would agree with you. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #62

2 choices back then, and only 2.... shira Oct 2013 #64

And you come back with the plied old excuse of wife beaters and violators everywhere. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #66

It means so much being chided by someone who prefers that the Jews be annihilated back then... shira Oct 2013 #67

And the Godwin raises it's frightful head...with the veneer of shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #70

"The Zionists were the villains in this particular act". Okay, so what should they have done? shira Oct 2013 #72

So your saying the British along with the US azurnoir Oct 2013 #73

The Brits and US have allowed recent Syrian and Sudanese massacres/genocide.... shira Oct 2013 #74

so you think the US along with the West would allow a genocide against Israeli Jews right now? azurnoir Oct 2013 #75

You asked me about 2 Holocausts within a decade back in the 40's. My answer was yes. NT shira Oct 2013 #76

yes but then you pointed out 'genocides' the US is allowing right now as your answer azurnoir Oct 2013 #77

Now? Nope. But back then, sure. n/t shira Oct 2013 #79

I believe that what you have written is deceptive. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #90

Perhaps they should not have expelled 700,000 Palestinians for starters. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #78

You're telling me what they shouldn't have done. I'm asking u what should they have done instead. shira Oct 2013 #80

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #81

Can't handle a real question, can you? shira Oct 2013 #82

Apparently you can't handle a real answer. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #83

So what should the Jews of 1947-48 have done against their Palestinian enemies under al-Husseini? shira Oct 2013 #84

"Morris didn't >>>write<<< about Jews expelling 700,000 Palestinians. " R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #85

He said there was no choice but to expel them. That the choice was that or another Jewish genocide. shira Oct 2013 #86

"He said there was no choice but to expel them." 700,000? R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #87

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #88

Most war refugees "choose to leave" when the alternative is death. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #89

Is that a slip? Shaktimaan Nov 2013 #92

where today right now is concerned the map is accurate it's how it's labeled for 1946-1967 azurnoir Oct 2013 #36

From 1949-1967 the West Bank and Gaza were occupied by Jordan and Egypt oberliner Oct 2013 #35

probably to simplify things oberliner.... Israeli Oct 2013 #39

well, I bet those posters will go over with a big laugh. sheeeee. delrem Oct 2013 #40

That's the analysis we have come to expect from you nt King_David Oct 2013 #44

But it's a lie oberliner Oct 2013 #41

how about this one ? Israeli Oct 2013 #42

No problem there oberliner Oct 2013 #43