Israel/Palestine

Ken Burch

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32. The actions of the Palestinians since 1967

Reply to hack89 (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:08 PM

Jan 2012

are not indistinguishable from the actions of the other Arab countries prior to that.

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Romney: Palestinians don't want two-state solution, they want to eliminate Israel [View all] Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 OP

Consider the stated position of Hamas, Fatah etc on the existence of Israel ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #1

Did you actually watch the debate? Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #35

Don't you just hate it when a Republican is actually right about something? Fozzledick Jan 2012 #2

Romney isn't actually right. Ken Burch Jan 2012 #5

No, in order to be for peace you just have to be against continuing the war. Fozzledick Jan 2012 #7

The war can only end when Israelis treat Palestinians with equal respect Ken Burch Jan 2012 #8

Um, if Israeli treated Palestinians with "equal respect"... Fozzledick Jan 2012 #11

Too funny! +1 n/t shira Jan 2012 #26

To be for peace you have to stop trying to kill Jews. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #20

It's never been about "killing Jews"-stop using such terminology. Ken Burch Jan 2012 #22

So routine wars of extermination launched by the Arabs tell us what exactly? hack89 Jan 2012 #25

The actions of the Palestinians since 1967 Ken Burch Jan 2012 #32

'Romney, like you, is against peace between Israel and Palestine. ' King_David Jan 2012 #28

You're in love with the word "disgusting" today, for some reason. Ken Burch Jan 2012 #33

Yea , I would also be trying to switch topic nt King_David Jan 2012 #38

I've said nothing that deserved to be called disgusting. Ken Burch Jan 2012 #42

Whatever nt King_David Jan 2012 #43

Just the fact that the PLO and Hamas will never budge on RoR... shira Jan 2012 #3

Actually, you don't know that they'll never budge Ken Burch Jan 2012 #4

Check out the links from my last post before yours... shira Jan 2012 #6

I do want peace Ken Burch Jan 2012 #9

Really? So why haven't you ever once condemned the PA.... shira Jan 2012 #10

I HAVE said the PA should have made a counter-proposal during Oslo. Ken Burch Jan 2012 #14

I haven't seen anyone on your side saying that or criticizing the PA for that... shira Jan 2012 #16

I'm not absolutely on any one "side" Ken Burch Jan 2012 #17

Gee, "peace-through-victory" worked fine with Germany and Japan. Fozzledick Jan 2012 #12

Palestine is not Hitler's Germany or Imperial Japan-and Palestinians are not Nazis or neo-samurai. Ken Burch Jan 2012 #13

They may not be samurai, but "Judenrein" is EXACTLY what they want. Fozzledick Jan 2012 #18

Of course they CLAIMED to have such grievances:that doesn't mean they actually did Ken Burch Jan 2012 #21

Do you believe Hamas is a genocidal totalitarian aggressive outfit? shira Jan 2012 #19

I don't like Hamas and I don't support them. Ken Burch Jan 2012 #23

The point is they don't want a two-state solution, they do want to eliminate Israel Fozzledick Jan 2012 #24

The way to stop Hamas, then, is to actually create a REAL two-state solution. Ken Burch Jan 2012 #31

So you would have Israel unilaterally impose a 2 state solution... Fozzledick Jan 2012 #36

I wanted an honest answer to that question... shira Jan 2012 #27

I said I'm against them-why do I have to use YOUR exact phraseology? Ken Burch Jan 2012 #30

As I thought. You know damned well they're a genocidal, psychotic collective... shira Jan 2012 #37

I'm against Hamas. They are violent and extreme-but "genocidal"? Ken Burch Jan 2012 #39

Yeah, they're genocidal. Here's some damning evidence I want you to comment on... shira Jan 2012 #90

Sorry for all the videos. If someone knows how to get rid of the videos... shira Jan 2012 #91

Why do want to get rid of the videos and keep only the links? Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #93

Post #90 is an eye opener into my perspective. How so? N/T shira Jan 2012 #94

You posted them, they don't reflect your perspective?? n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #95

Of course they reflect my perspective... shira Jan 2012 #96

Your sources speak to your perspective, whether I agree with it or not Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #97

You're twisting my words, again Ken Burch Jan 2012 #98

Ken, you didn't comment on what was or wasn't genocidal... shira Jan 2012 #99

What I'm saying is that, loathesome as they are, Hamas are not more important Ken Burch Jan 2012 #100

You're assuming Hamas and the PLO will stop with the genocidal incitement... shira Jan 2012 #101

By "your way", I mean the idea of assuming the whole thing is the Palestinians' fault Ken Burch Feb 2012 #102

I didn't say that. But settlements and occupation aren't even close to the primary... shira Feb 2012 #103

There's no justification for any Israeli annexation of ANY part of the West Bank Ken Burch Feb 2012 #104

The Palestinians will never agree to any reasonable Israeli offer... shira Feb 2012 #105

That is the most disgusting collection jimmie Feb 2012 #107

Team Palestine never voices any concern WRT all this hateful indoctrination... shira Feb 2012 #109

The reason you need to address Hamas being a genocidal totalitarian aggressor Fozzledick Jan 2012 #40

Actually, "disgusting" is King David's word-of-the-day Ken Burch Jan 2012 #41

'Genocidal' is also the word of the day... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #46

Ooh, now there's a wonderful way of concealing the truth without *technically* lying... Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #51

I'm not concealing any truth... shira Jan 2012 #89

The Republican response was predictable, and they are consistent. Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #15

i wonder how much sheldon adelson should pay for an outburst like this shaayecanaan Jan 2012 #29

Adelson is supporting Gingrich not Romney oberliner Jan 2012 #54

OK...how much of a refund should Adelson get from Newt, then? Ken Burch Jan 2012 #66

I watched that debate, and that was horrifying. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #34

I didn't see the debate. Do you know if it's available online? Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #45

Found it. Wasn't as bad as I remembered Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #47

OMG! I don't know if I should be thanking or cursing you for what I saw in the first few minutes! Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #48

Oh, the debates are awesome! Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #64

Why would "Republican of Palestinian heritage" be bizarre? oberliner Jan 2012 #58

Well, a lot of Arab-Americans, including Palestinian-Americans Ken Burch Jan 2012 #77

You are wrong about one thing oberliner Jan 2012 #50

Yes - and neither did Rick Santorum Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #62

Rick, I would think, would be in with Romney/Gingrich on the matter oberliner Jan 2012 #65

From what I have seen, I have no doubt. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #70

interesting responses to this azurnoir Jan 2012 #44

No it doesn't oberliner Jan 2012 #56

where are you seeing 2? n/t azurnoir Jan 2012 #72

In this thread oberliner Jan 2012 #73

well I wasn't speaking of the thread azurnoir Jan 2012 #74

No it wouldn't oberliner Jan 2012 #75

His answer was off the charts oberliner Jan 2012 #49

I agree Harmony Blue Jan 2012 #59

There is only one side that does not want a two-state solution, and it is not the Palestinians. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #52

That is definitely not true oberliner Jan 2012 #55

What I said was true, some of what you say is a simple lie. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #60

Everything you said was not true and nothing that I said was a lie oberliner Jan 2012 #61

Or look at some election results? Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2012 #63

Palestinian negotiators accept Jewish state, papers reveal shaayecanaan Jan 2012 #67

Three panderers and a fool. aranthus Jan 2012 #53

The Palestinian-American Republican was certainly not pandered to by Romney oberliner Jan 2012 #57

I don't think that pandering to the Palestinians has ever been a significant problem shaayecanaan Jan 2012 #68

Indeed not oberliner Jan 2012 #71

Romney is not the least bit subtle. aranthus Jan 2012 #92

Gingrich’s Extremist Anti-Palestinian Stance Follows Millions from Casino Magnate Sheldon Adelson Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #69

Other way around oberliner Jan 2012 #76

The influence came from Adelson first, Gingrich's position changed from that point: Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #78

No it didn't oberliner Jan 2012 #79

In your opinion it did not..the OP includes documents of what he said in his position papers. Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #80

See my post below oberliner Jan 2012 #84

He's clearly angling for donations, though... shaayecanaan Jan 2012 #82

Gingrich accused Palestinians of "Nazi-like behavior" in 1997 (pre-Adelson) oberliner Jan 2012 #81

You seem to think that the earlier OP was suggesting Gingrich Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #83

"Nazi-like" is more than just not having a love fest oberliner Jan 2012 #85

Slightly more left? Well, we disagree and I do not see support for Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #86

If you can stomach it, check out the Rumsfeld papers oberliner Jan 2012 #87

There are two OP's posted here, one embedded within the other, Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #88

Neither does Israel AnOhioan Feb 2012 #106

As much as I hate to admit it, Romney is correct Liora24 Feb 2012 #108