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Response to Shaktimaan (Reply #54)

Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:27 AM

55. Again, you offer very bad arguments.

 

But I'm willing to respect you at least do so in a reasonable fashion. So kudos to you, Shaktimaan, you're fast becoming my favorite person to think is wrong about life, the universe, and everything

Alright, so let's take it.

1) Israel is not occupied by the UN. Israel is not bombed by the UN. The UN does not assassinate Israel's political leaders. The UN does not arrest Israeli children. The UN does not take Israeli land to build UN outposts. The UN does not have a food embargo against Haifa. The UN does not arrest Israelis and detain them without charge, nor does it torture them. The UN does not demolish Israeli homes, orchards, or families. The UN does not drop cluster bombs in Tel Aviv and assure the world that every single person who dies was a terrorist and needed to die. The UN does not open fire on Israeli fishermen plying their trade. The UN does not demand that Israel recognize that the UN is open only to particular ethnic groups, which happens to not include Jews. The UN has not built a fifty-foot concrete wall across Eastern Israel in order to supposedly protect people in the west bank from settlers invading (nor has it granted the Israeli land on the eastern side of that wall to Palestinians).

To call Israel oppressed because of censure attempts at the UN is sort of like those blithering idiot settlers who were claiming to be the victims of apartheid because they can't take over Area C.

2) At least the majority of these resolutions against Israel are called for in the UN because of Israel's status as the occupier and oppressor of the Palestinians. Maybe not all - I have to admit to not having read all of them, and i'm certain you haven't, either - but those iI have read all revolve around that status. They are attempts at corrective measures, and while you could argue how effective they are as such, that is their intent.

To call that "oppression" is little different than another group of blithering idiots here in the Us who think that affirmative action or equal-for-all holiday displays are oppressive to the white / christian majority.

You are in essence complaining that Israel is oppressed because the world does not condone the oppressions it levies. That's just a really dumb argument.

Of course it's coming from someone who seems to think that you can be racist against socialism. So...

late edit: Help, help, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is being OPPRESSED!

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