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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
55. Again, you offer very bad arguments.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:27 AM
Mar 2013

But I'm willing to respect you at least do so in a reasonable fashion. So kudos to you, Shaktimaan, you're fast becoming my favorite person to think is wrong about life, the universe, and everything

Alright, so let's take it.

1) Israel is not occupied by the UN. Israel is not bombed by the UN. The UN does not assassinate Israel's political leaders. The UN does not arrest Israeli children. The UN does not take Israeli land to build UN outposts. The UN does not have a food embargo against Haifa. The UN does not arrest Israelis and detain them without charge, nor does it torture them. The UN does not demolish Israeli homes, orchards, or families. The UN does not drop cluster bombs in Tel Aviv and assure the world that every single person who dies was a terrorist and needed to die. The UN does not open fire on Israeli fishermen plying their trade. The UN does not demand that Israel recognize that the UN is open only to particular ethnic groups, which happens to not include Jews. The UN has not built a fifty-foot concrete wall across Eastern Israel in order to supposedly protect people in the west bank from settlers invading (nor has it granted the Israeli land on the eastern side of that wall to Palestinians).

To call Israel oppressed because of censure attempts at the UN is sort of like those blithering idiot settlers who were claiming to be the victims of apartheid because they can't take over Area C.

2) At least the majority of these resolutions against Israel are called for in the UN because of Israel's status as the occupier and oppressor of the Palestinians. Maybe not all - I have to admit to not having read all of them, and i'm certain you haven't, either - but those iI have read all revolve around that status. They are attempts at corrective measures, and while you could argue how effective they are as such, that is their intent.

To call that "oppression" is little different than another group of blithering idiots here in the Us who think that affirmative action or equal-for-all holiday displays are oppressive to the white / christian majority.

You are in essence complaining that Israel is oppressed because the world does not condone the oppressions it levies. That's just a really dumb argument.

Of course it's coming from someone who seems to think that you can be racist against socialism. So...

late edit: Help, help, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is being OPPRESSED!

'vowing an "eternal" alliance with the Jewish entity' King_David Mar 2013 #1
No surprise, he has always made these remarks. It was stated in this group that Obama was a Zionist. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #2
Yep, seems like a huge difference, King_David Mar 2013 #5
LOL, yea, it is and you still have no such evdience he ever said that..although Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #7
I said that? King_David Mar 2013 #9
Sure: Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #12
You must have made a mistake with your link King_David Mar 2013 #14
No mistake on my part..it's there. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #15
Yes it's true they are King_David Mar 2013 #18
Oh for crying out loud. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #19
What do you think Zionism is? oberliner Mar 2013 #20
Oh please oberliner, save any lesson you imagine I may need about Zionism. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #24
Not a lesson, just a question oberliner Mar 2013 #43
I do not determine what Zionism means, do you have your own version, oberliner? Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #45
The movement to establish and preserve a Jewish homeland. oberliner Mar 2013 #46
So you do have your own version, ok. There exists no one united across the board ideology regarding Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #60
Where'd I say :"he ever claimed he was a Zionist. " King_David Mar 2013 #23
I believe you were clear in your last post..uh, fantasy. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #26
Obama is a Zionist ... King_David Mar 2013 #28
He never has made the statement he was a Zionist. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #31
Well then again I ask you to link up where I posted that King_David Mar 2013 #33
I already did in your earlier post..in this thread. And it's hee hee, not he he. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #35
Here's your link in full , point it out to us all please, King_David Mar 2013 #36
Then read it, again. You're saying Obama is a Zionist even though he never said such a thing, Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #37
Is it possible for someone who is not a Zionist to say: King_David Mar 2013 #38
When you find the quote, similar to Biden's, post it. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #39
I have no need to go look for such a quote King_David Mar 2013 #40
Uh huh, you do that, ignore the quote...if you ever find one. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #41
Agreed. No one but a Zionist would say that. n/t shira Mar 2013 #42
Exactly King_David Mar 2013 #44
Bullshit title demwing Mar 2013 #3
What is the truth ? King_David Mar 2013 #4
so a question how does that translate ie what exactly does that mean "support for Israel" ? azurnoir Mar 2013 #6
The USA is Israel's greatest friend and supporter King_David Mar 2013 #8
I can't believe the amount of Obama hatred this trip is engendering in DUers Mosby Mar 2013 #10
Many Marxist, communists and socialists that post here don't like Obama..really? Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #13
I'm a Liberal, what are you? Mosby Mar 2013 #17
A racist? You're kidding, right? Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #22
Maybe I didn't make it clear Mosby Mar 2013 #27
I don't share the opinion with you he is referring to Obama as a bigot. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #34
And I explain why to Cali, as well Scootaloo Mar 2013 #49
you make it easy on yourself... pelsar Mar 2013 #50
I did not accuse Obama of racism. I accused him of moral cowardice and complicity with oppression. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #56
i believe you wrote "subhuman" you were very clear. pelsar Mar 2013 #57
+100% mazzarro Mar 2013 #51
But do you apply this philosophy evenly? Shaktimaan Mar 2013 #54
Again, you offer very bad arguments. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #55
Bravo. Shaktimaan Mar 2013 #58
Are you insinuating, Shaktimaan Mar 2013 #59
+1 King_David Mar 2013 #32
oh so settlements are an internal matter I see thanks azurnoir Mar 2013 #11
I am in favor of a disengagement similar to that of the Geneva accord . King_David Mar 2013 #16
ya that seems to have gotten to be a popular thing to say azurnoir Mar 2013 #21
Nov 29. ? King_David Mar 2013 #25
yep on 11/29/12: Palestinians win implicit U.N. recognition of sovereign state azurnoir Mar 2013 #29
OIC King_David Mar 2013 #30
To paraphrase Chuck Schumer... Scootaloo Mar 2013 #47
and well how can they be settlers azurnoir Mar 2013 #48
It's all a simple "debate " in DU for you.. King_David Mar 2013 #52
That's because the source doesn't use the word Israel oberliner Mar 2013 #53
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