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Mosby

(16,298 posts)
2. another snippet
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:15 PM
Feb 2013

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What exists here on the surface as disproportional insanity is actually ideologically determined and politically intentional. The result is an environment in which the virulently antisemitic, genocidal, anti-Christian, anti-American, and pro-terrorist Muslim Brotherhood is the beneficiary of apologetics while Israel is “bad.”

A nut from an extremist cult spit on a teenaged Jewish girl in a small town in Israel and the next thing you know there is a serious Western debate over Israel losing its soul. A few fans from Israel’s most nationalist football team don’t want Muslim players—Arabs already play for all the other teams and are never harassed—and the next thing you know the New York Times compares Israel to Nazi Germany.

Or the Israeli election was widely presented as the impending triumph of neo-fascist forces even though the far-right party received less than 10 percent of the vote, what that category usually receives. The New Yorker gave us a hitherto unknown professor at a university in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip as its expert on Israeli politics. Or the New York Times article claiming that many Israelis were complaining that the Iron Dome system shot down Hamas missiles because it would be better--the reporter lied--if more Israelis were killed or wounded since that would impel the country to change its evil, hard-line ways and seek peace.

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Yet again this situation can no longer be dealt with as an ordinary, though rather spirited and emotional, debate. It is a massive, often conscious and deliberate, campaign of defamation. No longer on the margins, this campaign has penetrated into using the commanding heights of the Western mass media, intellectual, and academic institutions.

The reason for pointing this all out is that there are millions of well-intentioned, honest people who would be shocked if they had the paradigm shift between taking a good portion of this material as honest and well-intentioned and understood that they are being subjected to a concerted propaganda campaign of lies. If they comprehend that, they are far more likely to reject these lies as well as having their eyes opened to wider disinformation campaigns going on today.

I have seen plenty of bashing of Palestine as well, lets not pretend this is a one way street Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #1
The difference is that there is a coordinated propaganda campaign Mosby Feb 2013 #3
There is an even larger and more well funded campaign against Palestine Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #4
By whom? Be specific. n/t shira Feb 2013 #15
Seriously? Are you completely blind? Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #17
AIPAC is comparable to a concerted effort by the media, academia, gov't institutions, ngo's...? shira Feb 2013 #19
Don't even try to pretend everyone in the media and academia is anti-Israel Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #20
Not everyone. But a very significant, outspoken sector. And you didn't answer me... n/t shira Feb 2013 #22
I did answer you read the next post, you edited your post after I responded Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #23
Here is an example of a recent US Presidential candidate making a broad brush attack on Palestinians Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #21
And he's bashed in all sectors, every institution for his views.... shira Feb 2013 #24
I did not hear Netanyahu bashing him Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #25
So where's this concerted, mass conspiracy? Netanyahu is roundly condemned worldwide. shira Feb 2013 #26
Romney was bashing and lots of people agreed with him and joined in the bashing of Palestine Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #28
But I'm asking what was unfair or demonizing from Romney? Criticism is something else.... shira Feb 2013 #29
Saying Palestinians don't want peace is unfair, in other words the entire premise of what he said Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #31
Should he have said "most" Palestinians? Check this out.... shira Feb 2013 #33
There are plenty of Israelis who reject a two state solution as well Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #34
It's not comparable. Most RIGHTWING Israelis are for 2 states, split Jerusalem..... shira Feb 2013 #38
There is also a vicious propaganda campaign against Muslims and immigrants in Europe LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #7
I agree that his reputation is tarnished Mosby Feb 2013 #9
No; the 'neo-fascists' have always existed and are not being 'fed' by the sins of immigrants and LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #11
More Rubin LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #10
sounds rather like Tea partier n/t azurnoir Feb 2013 #43
You don't get Rubin, and I don't believe you want to either. shira Feb 2013 #16
I'm not surprised yr now defending someone who insists there's no such thing as Islamophobia Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #52
another snippet Mosby Feb 2013 #2
Wait a minute ...... polly7 Feb 2013 #5
Interesting response zellie Feb 2013 #6
oh poor Israel, everybody is out get it all the time everywhere. nt msongs Feb 2013 #8
They're out to get it when R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #13
If All the Supposed Anti Israel Media Helps Re-balance our Relationship with Israel I'm All For It Indykatie Feb 2013 #32
Question... Shaktimaan Feb 2013 #48
Israel is not being singled out by the UN. Your premise is flawed. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #49
Huh. Shaktimaan Feb 2013 #50
Oh, would you please stop it! Would you please come off your high horse as well! R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #12
It's not any criticism. The problem is the OTT, exaggerated, half-truths, demonization.... shira Feb 2013 #18
wow really at no other time well I can't remember another time when azurnoir Feb 2013 #14
Israel is responsible foor most of the trouble bowens43 Feb 2013 #27
How many people have been killed in Syria in the last two years? oberliner Feb 2013 #30
'most of the trouble in the Middle East' LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #36
I agree. delrem Feb 2013 #40
That's fucking hilarious Scootaloo Feb 2013 #35
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #37
+1000. Very well stated. nt. polly7 Feb 2013 #39
heh delrem Feb 2013 #41
I think that rightist Obama bashers such as Rubin are relied on for propping up ones opinions azurnoir Feb 2013 #42
No shit. n/t delrem Feb 2013 #44
Agree about the RW sources, but it's not only on one side LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #46
I totally admire your ability to cut through BS. n/t delrem Feb 2013 #45
:) abelenkpe Feb 2013 #51
Eye rolling to the extreme Solindsey Feb 2013 #47
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