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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
8. I see you don't have a clear idea on what meddling is.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:29 AM
Jan 2013

PBO made a comment about Israel, its future and its PM.

You see, there's a certain thing in the USA called freedom of speech. Perhaps you are familiar with the US Constitution and the first amendment contained therein.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution


It's not meddling or disparaging no matter how hard that some wish it to be or make the case for it. It just doesn't exist. Sorry to have to break it to you like this. Now if PBO was doing presser after presser on Israel and its current PM, meeting with the Israeli PMs opponents, having photo ops with them and using bellicose language (saber rattling) about Iran which could draw Israel into an unwanted fight then you would have the equivalent of meddling in a country's elections.

Now interfering in a country's elections looks like this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/03/us/politics/romney-plans-trip-to-israel.html

and this...

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/minutes-before-netanyahu-meeting-romney-cancels-on-yacimovich-1.454425

and this...

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2012/0927/What-Netanyahu-s-meddling-in-US-election-means-for-Obama-Romney-and-diplomacy

and this...

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/brinkley/article/Netanyahu-burns-bridges-with-Obama-4045204.php

Now if PBO was doing what Bibi had been doing on the run-up to the US election then you would have a case. Right now you apparently have a axe to grind with a phantom.

And that for one is puzzling.
I'm not sure how Bibi sees what PBO has said can be defined as harsh criticism. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #1
Maybe the US shouldn't interfere with another country's elections? oberliner Jan 2013 #2
true that, was there an IVoteAmerica campaign sponsored by American azurnoir Jan 2013 #6
I see you don't have a clear idea on what meddling is. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #8
That's hilarious oberliner Jan 2013 #30
I see that you are having difficulty refuting what I have written. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #32
Only to the willfully blind. Netanyahu took PUBLIC actions to try geek tragedy Jan 2013 #41
As I recall eyl Jan 2013 #50
Links would be great if they exist. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #52
Can't find a link eyl Jan 2013 #61
Sorry. I don't download unknown pdfs. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #62
Ha ha ha. Like Bibi bashing Obama last fall and treating Romney geek tragedy Jan 2013 #40
This did not actually happen oberliner Jan 2013 #48
Funny how everyone else on the planet disagrees with your denial. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #49
I wish I could say I thought this would help the Palestinians, but I don't think so. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #4
A question. aranthus Jan 2013 #37
"Why does the UN have any moral authority." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #38
That's not a viable answer. aranthus Jan 2013 #39
I believe that you have absolutely no understanding of the UN or are being R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #42
And the UN is in breach of its principles. In a hideous way... shira Jan 2013 #44
My, friend. you posted to an opinion piece on Ynet. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #46
It's not opinion, it's fact. The UN has zero moral authority. shira Jan 2013 #47
You raise an interesting question. aranthus Jan 2013 #56
It's time to refute the shadow of disinformation #1: Boutros Boutros-Ghal R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #57
Interesting POV. Shaktimaan Feb 2013 #64
And I think it's you who hasn't understood or thought it through. aranthus Jan 2013 #55
Excellent fail on your part...in pretty blue no less. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #58
You're still not thinking things through. aranthus Jan 2013 #59
Have a good night. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #60
He's right, of course ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #3
Yes, but Obama is right too. delrem Jan 2013 #7
The UN spits in Israel's face on a daily basis ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #9
The UN crime according to Israel: recognizing the existence of Palestine. delrem Jan 2013 #11
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #12
That statement is without doubt the most offensive delrem Jan 2013 #13
But ... historically accurate holdencaufield Jan 2013 #15
No. It's just 100% offensive. nt delrem Jan 2013 #17
Palestine was a geographic area; never a sovereign nation. shira Jan 2013 #27
But you're not allowed to tell the truth at DU. aranthus Jan 2013 #19
Actually, you are allowed to write the truth. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #21
It's just when the 'truth' resembles something Newt Gingrich said azurnoir Jan 2013 #22
Except Holden didn't post anything like what Gingrich said. aranthus Jan 2013 #34
nice in depth analysis some 14 or so hours after the fact azurnoir Jan 2013 #43
Is that why you never bother? Scootaloo Jan 2013 #26
Clever. aranthus Jan 2013 #35
Delrem....in all sincerity.. zellie Jan 2013 #23
To me it exhibits callous indifference. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #24
I don't accept your statement that you "don't know". nt delrem Jan 2013 #25
Delrem , I'm not feigning ignorance. zellie Jan 2013 #31
I wrote a post yesterday clearly outlining the racism of low expectations.... shira Jan 2013 #28
Do you ever read what you write? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #33
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #54
"... that never existed in the first place." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #18
you should know Shaktimaan Feb 2013 #65
Indication of indigenous Palestinians being eliminated by Israel... R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #14
Do you not understand the difference ... holdencaufield Jan 2013 #16
And now the grand backtracking and rationalizations begin. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #20
"The whole world is reacting to the....elimination of...indigenous Palestinians". shira Jan 2013 #29
All Pres. Obama did was spread some sauce on the gander (Bibi), who didn't like it, SDjack Jan 2013 #5
Yep. Scurrilous Jan 2013 #10
Derp derp derp derp ... bemildred Jan 2013 #36
that's right, keep biting the hand that sends weapons to you.. Alamuti Lotus Jan 2013 #45
good, return our donations larkrake Jan 2013 #51
Who do you think should determine Israel's interests? nt oberliner Jan 2013 #53
Israel should not determine the interests R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #63
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