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38. Yeah, just like Pine Ridge in South Dakota has been under Indian governance

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Mon Dec 3, 2012, 12:57 PM

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Zakaria: What the Palestinians should do. [View all] kayecy Dec 2012 OP

A commitment to non-violence would go a long way oberliner Dec 2012 #1

Except it didn't Recursion Dec 2012 #2

Never been tried before oberliner Dec 2012 #3

I can't help your selective memory. Between the two intifadas Recursion Dec 2012 #4

guess i have to fill in what you chose not to... tsk tsk tsk pelsar Dec 2012 #8

When in that time did the settlement expansion stop? Recursion Dec 2012 #9

it hasn't... it wasnt part of the agreement pelsar Dec 2012 #11

Islamic Jihad's rockets weren't part of any ceasefire Recursion Dec 2012 #14

thats not the issue...we're learning about.... pelsar Dec 2012 #15

Nobody "receives" self-government. It is an absolute right. Recursion Dec 2012 #16

religious? pelsar Dec 2012 #19

You might at least admit there were two interpretations of Oslo....... kayecy Dec 2012 #17

multiple interpretations....of course pelsar Dec 2012 #18

You're back...we still disagree on most things, but glad that you're here. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #24

just a short visit..... pelsar Dec 2012 #25

Well, do what you need to do. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #52

Talk about selective memory oberliner Dec 2012 #12

I was talking about post 1993 Recursion Dec 2012 #13

300 Israelis were killed in terror attacks from 1993-2000. shira Dec 2012 #28

Because of course, Hamas and Islamic Jihad define all Palestinians Scootaloo Dec 2012 #21

your not even kidding.... pelsar Dec 2012 #26

What do you surmise the reason to be, Pelsar? Scootaloo Dec 2012 #29

for the same reason.... pelsar Dec 2012 #30

Funding, primarily Scootaloo Dec 2012 #31

how about priorities... pelsar Dec 2012 #32

I'm not talking about a political party, Pelsar Scootaloo Dec 2012 #34

what you didnt explain is why there are no funds..... pelsar Dec 2012 #35

Actually I did. I don't think it's getting through to you, though Scootaloo Dec 2012 #41

i'm well aware of the smaller groups.... pelsar Dec 2012 #56

Ah yes, you're going to tell me about "typical progressives" AND "typical palestinians" Scootaloo Dec 2012 #62

Sorry, have to make a small comment here. Shaktimaan Dec 2012 #57

Lame excuse. Shaktimaan Dec 2012 #71

There's "ignorant" and then there's "stupid" Scootaloo Dec 2012 #72

Cute. Shaktimaan Dec 2012 #73

Now you're telling fibs, silly Scootaloo Dec 2012 #74

Scoot, you're deflecting from the fact you were wrong. shira Dec 2012 #75

The thing is, I'm not wrong Scootaloo Dec 2012 #76

Come on. So if the PA or PLO had more resources.... shira Dec 2012 #77

I have no idea. What if aliens landed in Rafah? Scootaloo Dec 2012 #78

A history lesson pelsar Dec 2012 #79

You need to get your shit straight Scootaloo Dec 2012 #80

i was just answering to the moving conversation..... pelsar Dec 2012 #81

So if you have no idea and no evidence the PLO would fund Palestinian PeaceNow.... shira Dec 2012 #82

With its new status, what would happen if no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #5

Same thing that happened in '88 and '93 Recursion Dec 2012 #6

There's no evidence of that. delrem Dec 2012 #7

I think you meant "behind the 1967 borders" Ken Burch Dec 2012 #23

OK, I wiki'd it delrem Dec 2012 #40

It would. If BOTH sides made that commitment. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #55

The West Bank has been peaceful for years. What has that got them besides less land? Recursion Dec 2012 #10

A level of autonomy that hadn't existed for decades oberliner Dec 2012 #27

Absurd! Recursion Dec 2012 #36

None of those exist in Area A oberliner Dec 2012 #37

You're asking us to celebrate Bantustans? nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #39

No oberliner Dec 2012 #42

Yes, they gained Bantustans. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #46

They were offered a very fair deal in 2001.... shira Dec 2012 #49

Now Israel has become Arafat. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #65

Nope. But the PA is still like Arafat.... shira Dec 2012 #66

International pariah, incapable and disinterested in serious negotiations, tilting geek tragedy Dec 2012 #67

This pariah (deligitimization) effort began after the Taba accord.... shira Dec 2012 #68

You think Israel is more respected and supported today than it was geek tragedy Dec 2012 #69

You didn't answer my question. Attempts to delegitimize Israel by working.... shira Dec 2012 #70

Area A is a wonder 55% of Palestinians in the West Bank live there on 18% of the land azurnoir Dec 2012 #63

Yeah, just like Pine Ridge in South Dakota has been under Indian governance geek tragedy Dec 2012 #38

You really want to compare the Palestinian situation to that of Native Americans? oberliner Dec 2012 #43

Do explain further, Oberliner Scootaloo Dec 2012 #44

Ballpark figure of number of Native Americans killed from, say, 1620 onwards? oberliner Dec 2012 #47

Geek is referring to the reservation system, not the history that led there Scootaloo Dec 2012 #61

The only difference is that the Native Americans have become US citizens geek tragedy Dec 2012 #45

And the mass extermination oberliner Dec 2012 #48

Except... Shaktimaan Dec 2012 #58

And Netanyahu just goes on building and building.... kayecy Dec 2012 #59

Gaza has no right to control its own borders, its own air space, its own immigration policy, geek tragedy Dec 2012 #64

well it's a thought azurnoir Dec 2012 #20

Why is it necessary to dissolve the PA? Ken Burch Dec 2012 #22

If I understand Fareed... Scootaloo Dec 2012 #33

It will never happen. Ever. Abbas won't give up his power... shira Dec 2012 #50

I noticed that you NEVER admitted it was an unacceptable request. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #51

What request? If the PA wishes to fold and gives Israel the choice... shira Dec 2012 #53

the choice to do what? Keep the West Bank forever? Ken Burch Dec 2012 #54

Okay. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #60