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shira

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128. Why condemn killing a Hamas terrorist leader? That's like condemning...
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:03 AM
Nov 2012

...the killing of bin Laden.

Screw that.

And just how do you see this as defence? teddy51 Nov 2012 #1
Still no condemnation of Hamas. Where were you the past year.... shira Nov 2012 #14
You defenders of Israel are good at throwing smoke screens up, teddy51 Nov 2012 #22
And....still no condemnation. shira Nov 2012 #23
I suspect you two are going to stay angry and frustrated for a long, long time to come. eom leveymg Nov 2012 #29
"we have no choice" subsuelo Nov 2012 #72
Defending against terrorism isn't terrorism... shira Nov 2012 #122
That is the same logic as Hamas, of course subsuelo Nov 2012 #150
So in response to Hamas' rockets, Israel should.......? shira Nov 2012 #160
Do you justify using the same logic as Hamas? n/t subsuelo Nov 2012 #197
Hamas doesn't defend. Israel's existence is the problem to them. shira Nov 2012 #198
Again, you use the same logic as Hamas subsuelo Nov 2012 #201
And you're arguing Israel has no choice but to enjoy those rockets... shira Nov 2012 #205
Wrong. The one and only argument I have made here ... subsuelo Nov 2012 #208
Wrong. You're against Israel's operation to attack Hamas. shira Nov 2012 #210
No, not wrong. It is the same logic as Hamas subsuelo Nov 2012 #213
It isn't attempted mass murder. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #77
Can you possibly believe what you've typed here? oberliner Nov 2012 #92
There never WASN'T a lockdown. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #94
Of course it is! They're trying to kill as many as possible each time... shira Nov 2012 #123
In addition, JoDog Nov 2012 #136
you mean the PLO our government supports and funds the one that will soon azurnoir Nov 2012 #155
Rubbish...Let's get things into proportion...... kayecy Nov 2012 #138
Without Iron Dome and all the bunkers, thousands of Israelis would be dead.... shira Nov 2012 #162
Now you really are getting in a tizz........... kayecy Nov 2012 #232
Without bunkers, early warning, iron dome there would be far more Israeli deaths... shira Nov 2012 #233
You are sorry that Hamas has not killed as many civilians as Israel has? ....... kayecy Nov 2012 #238
Gilad Sharon(the true voice of Bibi's government)is calling for mass murder, and Bibi backs him Ken Burch Nov 2012 #164
Bibi and Barak back him? Another bloodthirsty charge... shira Nov 2012 #231
Yes, the missile attacks are bad intaglio Nov 2012 #157
It is attempted mass murder & if not for Iron Dome, alarm systems, bunkers.... shira Nov 2012 #163
Interesting that you choose to dehumanise the Palestinians intaglio Nov 2012 #187
Interesting you choose to make all Palestinians one with Hamas.... shira Nov 2012 #192
I'm sure you believe that n/t intaglio Nov 2012 #194
I often take CthulhusEvilCousin Nov 2012 #106
I condemn both sides. lalalu Nov 2012 #2
Yeah, the victims who defend themselves are just as guilty as the terrorists. Fozzledick Nov 2012 #4
Both sides play the victim part well. lalalu Nov 2012 #11
One side targets civilians, the other targets weapons aimed at their civilians. Fozzledick Nov 2012 #12
One side believes they were promised land because of the Bible. lalalu Nov 2012 #13
I'm with you and sick of the whole thing Tumbulu Nov 2012 #20
So Israel is as bad as Hamas. Thanks for that horrendous piece of moral equivalence. shira Nov 2012 #27
You know the perception to the public Tumbulu Nov 2012 #49
Exterminate them? oberliner Nov 2012 #63
Sorry that is the impression Tumbulu Nov 2012 #70
Where do you live? oberliner Nov 2012 #73
Northern CA Tumbulu Nov 2012 #74
Thanks for sharing your perspective oberliner Nov 2012 #76
The peoiple of Gaza are powerless AGAINST Hamas. They live at Hamas' mercy Ken Burch Nov 2012 #81
None of that is true oberliner Nov 2012 #87
If you were a Gazan, you'd see resistance to Hamas as suicidal and pointless Ken Burch Nov 2012 #91
That's what people use to say about Libya oberliner Nov 2012 #95
This has nothing in common with that. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #96
One point here JoDog Nov 2012 #137
Well then what is this about then? Tumbulu Nov 2012 #217
Two of us condemned the rocket attacks in this very thread. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #80
When pressed, you write a one sentence condemnation... shira Nov 2012 #124
I never supported Hamas. It's not like the only positions on them are support or denunciation Ken Burch Nov 2012 #159
So help me understand that when you ignore or deny Hamas' true character.... shira Nov 2012 #167
I don't ignore it...I just don't think it's more important than everything else. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #169
Israel targets civilians too, and Cast Lead proved that. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #79
Actually the exceptionally low ratio of civilian to combatant deaths proves just the opposite. Fozzledick Nov 2012 #84
hang on... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #89
Moral equivalency garbage.... shira Nov 2012 #125
It is difficult to avoid hitting civilians JoDog Nov 2012 #139
The Israelies are NOT innocent victims Ken Burch Nov 2012 #78
So the Israelis are guilty of defending themselves from Hamas' terrorist attacks. Fozzledick Nov 2012 #83
evidence? Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #90
Israeli victims of rockets are innocents. shira Nov 2012 #126
No, no, no...I never said Palestinians were MORE human Ken Burch Nov 2012 #158
You focus far more on Palestinian victimhood than Israelis... shira Nov 2012 #168
Everyone already knows about Israeli victimhood. Israeli victimhood is always covered in the MSM Ken Burch Nov 2012 #170
I have seen condemnation, and that Hamas started this particular conflict, at least in the U.S. still_one Nov 2012 #3
Not by the Israel-can-do-no-right crowd, you haven't. No condemnation from them at all. shira Nov 2012 #31
Bullshit Ken Burch Nov 2012 #82
Not really. You mumble that Hamas is wrong and then rant exclusively... shira Nov 2012 #114
Personally I don't care atreides1 Nov 2012 #152
He's a nutcase. He can't be ridiculed and condemned enough. n/t shira Nov 2012 #171
Condeming Hamas is not more important than everything else in this situation. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #161
Actually, it is. If instead of rockets, their focus were to build up Gaza peacefully... shira Nov 2012 #172
You, for some reason, take the Israeli government at its word Ken Burch Nov 2012 #176
If Israel and the IDF hate Palestinians so much.... shira Nov 2012 #184
Terror? ann--- Nov 2012 #5
So you blame Israel for the effects of Hamas' policies. Fozzledick Nov 2012 #8
No, I blame ann--- Nov 2012 #18
Thanks for this-I'm borrowing for a reply... Boxerfan Nov 2012 #9
I feel the same way ann--- Nov 2012 #17
Propaganda. No condemnation of Hamas. Thanks! n/t shira Nov 2012 #15
Yes, terror. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #86
Well said. JoDog Nov 2012 #140
to their credit Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #149
Because gosh Palestinians could have exported their produce right? thanx for 7 yr old link azurnoir Nov 2012 #154
It's hard for you to condemn Hamas for anything specific, isn't it? shira Nov 2012 #173
what are you babbling on about? the comment was about Palestinians in 2005 not Hamas today azurnoir Nov 2012 #183
Yeah, Palestinians like Hamas destroying the greenhouses back then... shira Nov 2012 #185
lol nice try but your comment is quite revealing azurnoir Nov 2012 #186
The Rafah Gate leads to 85 million people. Sounds like a market to me. aquart Nov 2012 #229
Isn't that funny? Zero condemnation of Egypt from our fellow peace activists. shira Nov 2012 #235
You know why. I know why. aquart Nov 2012 #237
So the Palestinians couldn't be bought off, hmmmm. Is that the behavior of anyone who patrice Nov 2012 #199
terror?-- you mean Palestinian responses to generations of Israeli oppression? mike_c Nov 2012 #6
Interesting religion you've got there. Fozzledick Nov 2012 #7
I'm an atheist.... mike_c Nov 2012 #19
Time to use the two-by-four. Fozzledick Nov 2012 #21
it's Persig's statement about the irrationality of religious beliefs... mike_c Nov 2012 #66
So Israeli women & children had those rockets coming to them? shira Nov 2012 #16
as I said, the sympathy-for-Israel card has little currency here.... mike_c Nov 2012 #67
But if you have sympathy for Palestinians.... shira Nov 2012 #133
give us proven examples of Hamas actually using children as human shields azurnoir Nov 2012 #200
Well here's a video from Hamas admitting it... shira Nov 2012 #204
lol a MEMRI translation are we supposed to believe supposed ex ShinBet and Mossad agents seriously azurnoir Nov 2012 #207
The translation of that video isn't under dispute. I also see you ignored... shira Nov 2012 #209
that was not Btselem here is Bteselem azurnoir Nov 2012 #211
Denial and defense of Hamas. What more can be said? shira Nov 2012 #215
still can not produce any actual charges can you? not one nothing nada why because ther are not any azurnoir Nov 2012 #216
So all the journalists and their many articles detailing Hamas' human shields.... shira Nov 2012 #219
ah so a screen shot of Rightist propaganda proves everything-for you apparently azurnoir Nov 2012 #220
The picture is from Haaretz actually. Are they too rightwing for you? shira Nov 2012 #221
the credit on your screen shot says eldar of zyon a rightist blog that was forbidden on DU2 azurnoir Nov 2012 #222
Try this, then. It's Haaretz. Now what do you say? shira Nov 2012 #223
actually riverwalker Nov 2012 #10
So where's your condemnation of Hamas? n/t shira Nov 2012 #25
they were very bad to break the windshield riverwalker Nov 2012 #64
So 1000 rockets is no biggie to condemn? n/t shira Nov 2012 #132
I am sick of them both! GitRDun Nov 2012 #24
So no condemnation of Hamas? And even better.... shira Nov 2012 #26
You obviously did not read what I said. GitRDun Nov 2012 #68
Trust me here that's not it azurnoir Nov 2012 #69
Reinterpreting others statements... subsuelo Nov 2012 #71
yep and as you can see some things never change azurnoir Nov 2012 #113
Thank you for the welcome subsuelo Nov 2012 #151
You're simplifying it as both sides are equally wrong. That's pretty bad... shira Nov 2012 #127
Couldn't agree more with your post larocks4552s Nov 2012 #165
Where is the condemnation of the open air prison known as Gaza? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #28
Rockets preceded the blockade by 2 years. Hamas is not only attempting mass murder.... shira Nov 2012 #30
This is why you can't win an argument with your type. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #35
Hamas is a very evil organization. As you know, they not only hate Jews.... shira Nov 2012 #40
I've condemned Hamas. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #43
Oh wow. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #93
Oh wow. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #104
Did I touch a nerve? Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #111
Likud is evil too. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #97
Pretty amazing. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #107
Many American Leftists support the only liberal democracy in the ME.... shira Nov 2012 #116
Simplistic. You're whitewashing/sanitizing Hamas every time.... shira Nov 2012 #115
Hamas is not worse than everybody else in leadership in this conflict Ken Burch Nov 2012 #166
Hamas isn't worse if you ignore/deny their true character... shira Nov 2012 #175
Grow up. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #102
And where is the condemnation of Israel's assassination of Hamas' military leader that precipitated bupkus Nov 2012 #33
Why condemn killing a Hamas terrorist leader? That's like condemning... shira Nov 2012 #128
Beg pardon JoDog Nov 2012 #141
I'm with you on this one customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #32
I'm sure Israel has a word for "peace" bupkus Nov 2012 #34
Genocide by Israel! Awesome! And still no condemnation of Hamas.... shira Nov 2012 #36
Condemnation of people who are prisoners in a ghetto? bupkus Nov 2012 #38
You see Hamas as victims in a ghetto, do you? You believe all Palestinians.... shira Nov 2012 #44
Take a deep breath ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #45
I'm reading what they're saying. Not impressed with their knowledge.... shira Nov 2012 #129
There's been plenty. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #39
Then how do you explain Richard Kemp citing UN numbers... shira Nov 2012 #41
Nothing quite like JoDog Nov 2012 #142
If the Israelis customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #42
Wow. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #46
Perhaps you prefer the status quo? customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #59
Could have fooled me. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #101
Check out how they are being treated in Jordan JoDog Nov 2012 #143
Certainly not a racist here, but that is my take on the situation also. JimDandy Nov 2012 #88
I think you misread the post LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #135
Why the hell should the Palestinians be relocated? They are from there. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #51
Throughout history customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #60
I see your point, but why do the palestinians have to get the end of the stick. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #62
Its simply because so very much time has passed customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #65
So very much time has passed? bupkus Nov 2012 #75
Yes, the Jewish state customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #109
Why didn't the Germans decide to resettle the Jews in their member states? bupkus Nov 2012 #53
I'm not sure how much power the Germans had in 1947 customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #61
Many reasons. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #98
I hudna said it better! Fozzledick Nov 2012 #37
al jazeera reporter advocating collective punishment and murder Mosby Nov 2012 #47
BINGO! And THAT's why there's no condemnation of Hamas terror. shira Nov 2012 #48
Theres plenty of condemnation ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2012 #57
Plenty? 1000 rockets over the last year and the anti-Israel crowd.... shira Nov 2012 #117
Here. madamesilverspurs Nov 2012 #50
fail. nt Deep13 Nov 2012 #52
Condemnation.............................. johnq45 Nov 2012 #54
You know, Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #100
"Claim"? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #206
Perhaps you should ask, Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #55
A false analogy justifying terror vs. Israeli citizens. Classy. n/t shira Nov 2012 #118
You will have to do better than that. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #145
Your last paragraph is a real doozy... shira Nov 2012 #177
Do you always have problems with comprehension? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #188
You wrote what Israel does is criminal and that they'd seriously consider annihilation... shira Nov 2012 #191
I am not your enemy...nor Israel's. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #202
Not here. Happily condemning Israel, though. Daemonaquila Nov 2012 #56
So you think... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #99
Appreciate your honesty. n/t shira Nov 2012 #119
i condemn the hamas terror, just as i condemn the IDF's terror.. frylock Nov 2012 #58
That's like saying you condemn Nazi Germany just as you do the USA.... shira Nov 2012 #120
uhhh the IDF would be the nazis in your scenario, sport.. frylock Nov 2012 #146
Then how do you explain the IDF's record WRT civilians? UN records show... shira Nov 2012 #178
Hamas. Israel. Smae thing different flags. Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #85
Please tell me what happened. underthematrix Nov 2012 #103
About a thousand rockets in the last year.... shira Nov 2012 #131
rockets schmockets. how many deaths as a result of these bajillion rockets? frylock Nov 2012 #148
Enough deaths. You want more? With no early warning systems, Iron dome... shira Nov 2012 #180
you're the one cheering on deaths here frylock Nov 2012 #225
No, you and yours are the ones telling Israelis to drop dead... shira Nov 2012 #226
Not seeing a lot of 'love' here for the israelis. You might want to try again. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #105
True. The OP is correct. The humanitarians love Palestinians.... shira Nov 2012 #121
I am Jewish. (American). And I am still furious at the Israeli Jews that killed Rabin. graham4anything Nov 2012 #108
Maybe where it should be. elleng Nov 2012 #110
I elect against condemnation of them at the present moment, and have no interest in your arguments Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #112
At the present moment and anytime besides the present moment. n/t shira Nov 2012 #130
And how do you defend Israel's actions? kayecy Nov 2012 #134
Israel has a right to self defense like any other nation, right? Or do you disagree? shira Nov 2012 #181
Yes, Israel has a right to self-defence but that is irrelevant...... kayecy Nov 2012 #189
A right to self-defense vs. Lebanon or Syria, but not Hamas. Right? shira Nov 2012 #190
so Jabari was as clean a kill as Bin Laden? who elese was killed with Bin Laden? azurnoir Nov 2012 #193
It really galls you that the IDF is more careful with civilians than any other military... shira Nov 2012 #195
nope that is not what galls me but do keep up the false accusations azurnoir Nov 2012 #196
You are an innocent aren't you Shira?.......... kayecy Nov 2012 #218
How do you expect to be taken seriously when you say Israel has no right to defend.... shira Nov 2012 #230
You know that is not what I said, why prevaricate?...... kayecy Nov 2012 #234
What's the difference b/w no right to self-defense vs. not dreaming.... shira Nov 2012 #236
Go on.......Keep sticking your head in the sand..... kayecy Nov 2012 #239
No, there have been plenty of criticisms in the past Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #179
Wow Bok_Tukalo Nov 2012 #144
you've got your condemnation. do you want it fucking notarized? frylock Nov 2012 #147
You think the OP is whining? Untrue? Or what? n/t shira Nov 2012 #182
yeh, i do frylock Nov 2012 #224
The problem with this whole thing is silhouete2 Nov 2012 #153
This very thread ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #156
If you believe there's a genuine reason Hamas (the other side) is bombing Jews.... shira Nov 2012 #240
All over the place, from all corners. Next question? (nt) Recursion Nov 2012 #174
Quit taking their land. ret5hd Nov 2012 #203
IIRC this (current) mess started when Israel saw an opportunity... TheMadMonk Nov 2012 #212
Israel has sovereignty over Gaza and West Bank but abdicated its security responsibilities. David__77 Nov 2012 #214
Not here. Ever. aquart Nov 2012 #227
No shit. They can do no wrong no matter the evidence.... shira Nov 2012 #228
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