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Violet_Crumble

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65. It's Israel, not 'Jewish', but you've been told that already...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:59 PM
Nov 2012

Of course I believe the West Bank is occupied and Israel has no right to construct its illegal settlements there. It's not an extreme view, not like the view of someone who states that Israel owns all the land east of the Jordan. In fact, the view I hold would be the same view held by the vast majority of DUers, so I'm at a loss as to why you appear to be now claiming that thinking the West Bank is occupied is a 'rubbish greater Israel settler view'. That makes no sense, seeing as the settlers and their supporters believe everything West of the Jordan is part of Israel...

Also, Israelis (we're talking about Israel and Israelis, not Jews) don't have a right to any land here. That's because Israel has to abide by the same set of international laws as every other country is expected to and its citizens don't just get to up and settle wherever they want outside of Israel.

"legalization of dozens of outposts" AKA Steal their land if they get uppity. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #1
Shaktimaan already proved you don't understand what the term "Apartheid " means King_David Nov 2012 #7
No, he didn't prove anything at all. You merely agreed with his opinion... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #10
You found me in this post too, King_David Nov 2012 #11
The post you were replying to wasn't addressed to you... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #13
Wow. You can reply to others, but none dare reply to you? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #22
I believe that King D. is trying to paint others as evil anti-semites. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #16
No Schlick there King_David Nov 2012 #17
I never said you said it outright, but I believe you started the groundwork for it. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #20
Sounds like a very threatening post. nt King_David Nov 2012 #27
You're not very intimidating, KD, and I never threaten anybody. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #28
Why would anyone say that "I " King_David Nov 2012 #37
So let's get back to the fact of the apartheid state. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #38
That's pretty much it. The implication comes through loud and clear n/t Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #31
No he didn't. Go back to drinking the kool-aid King D. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #15
Is it apartheid vs. Palestinians in Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria.... shira Nov 2012 #24
"Israel is an Apartheid state. " King_David Nov 2012 #36
I believe it is everybody's duty to speak truth to power. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #57
No need King_David Nov 2012 #61
Now let's get back to that apartheid state. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #66
Abba Eban said : King_David Nov 2012 #70
If Israel were to dismantle all of the illegal settlements on Palestinian lands R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #77
Really? Why? Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #86
What has Israel to lose Harry_Scrote Nov 2012 #2
The upgrade will allow the Palestinians to bring Israel to the ICC or ICJ azurnoir Nov 2012 #18
Aha! Harry_Scrote Nov 2012 #19
What has Israel to lose? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #23
Israel pushes forward with 1,200 homes in East Jerusalem settlements dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #3
You are over playing this ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #4
I am not doing anything. dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #5
well thanks for showing us "nothing to see here move along now folks" azurnoir Nov 2012 #6
Glad to help out...though I was not the only one ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #8
what exactly were you helping? azurnoir Nov 2012 #12
Shhhh. Yr supposed to refer to it as 'a Jerusalem neighbourhood', not disputed or occupied n.t Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #14
"disputed territory" is such a hoot. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #21
When Trans-Jordan was created, land to the west of it was intended for Jews.... shira Nov 2012 #25
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #26
Shira... We've been over this. Many times. You know fuck-all about history. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #29
Look into the history of Trans-Jordan. When established.... shira Nov 2012 #30
I've done plenty of homework. But just to be sure, I just googled it. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #32
Thank you for making the point.... shira Nov 2012 #40
I learned that I can easily predict when you will ignore reality Scootaloo Nov 2012 #50
For someone claiming to be intelligent, the least you could do is quote me correctly shira Nov 2012 #51
Okay, here's me quoting you correctly. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #52
You've proven that WB land was part of what was intended.... shira Nov 2012 #54
You're wrong pretty much everywhere. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #55
Yeah, if you say so. Too bad you can't explain why. shira Nov 2012 #56
English, actually Scootaloo Nov 2012 #59
You know, people can actually read your posts & not find anything there.... shira Nov 2012 #60
And there's a reason, Shira. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #67
I didn't argue Jews have exclusive 100% claims to the land... shira Nov 2012 #68
It looks to me as if you don't actually know what your own position is, Shira Scootaloo Nov 2012 #69
I'll try to be clear... shira Nov 2012 #71
Why are you claiming you wrote something completely different than what you did? Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #72
Why are you pretending I wrote stuff I didn't? shira Nov 2012 #75
I'm not. And I'll explain very patiently why... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #82
It's not just Balfour. The LoN 'Mandate for Palestine' is the basis... shira Nov 2012 #84
Apart from what Scoot said, that Greater Israel crap has never been welcome here at DU... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #33
There's also the problem of relying on rule by imperial fiat Scootaloo Nov 2012 #39
The point is Jews have a legitimate right to settle there... shira Nov 2012 #41
No, yr talking about Israelis, and they don't have a legal right to settle there... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #42
West Bank land was established 90 years ago as part of the Jewish homeland.... shira Nov 2012 #43
Do you not bother reading the replies to yr posts? Someone's already pointed out where yr wrong... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #44
You're avoiding the question. That land was allotted as part of a Jewish homeland... shira Nov 2012 #45
No, I'm just gobsmacked at how yr not reading what's been posted... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #46
Then explain the Jewish homeland and how it specifically.... shira Nov 2012 #47
It's already been explained to you... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #48
Your views are extreme when you deny any Jewish claim to the land... shira Nov 2012 #49
I hear dog whistle, but I don't believe it is R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #58
Do you have anything substantive to add here? Just wondering. n/t shira Nov 2012 #62
It's Israel, not 'Jewish', but you've been told that already... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #65
The meaning of Israel King_David Nov 2012 #79
Weren't you just accusing me of following you round? Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #81
So the WB being part of the Jewish homeland means what to you? shira Nov 2012 #80
The West Bank isn't part of Israel... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #83
See #84 WRT the LoN Mandate for Palestine. n/t shira Nov 2012 #85
take a gander at the original partition to see what was established as who's homeland azurnoir Nov 2012 #34
Actually, it established nothing. aranthus Nov 2012 #53
lol Balfour and the League of Nations are relevent but the UN is not azurnoir Nov 2012 #63
You misunderstood me. aranthus Nov 2012 #64
Really? shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #73
Israel has the right to annex it. n/t aranthus Nov 2012 #74
What rights do the Palestinians have to the land? nt shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #76
These. aranthus Nov 2012 #78
I was being diplomatic to put it mildly n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #35
Can you tell the difference between East and West? It appears not... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #9
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