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Violet_Crumble

(35,954 posts)
121. No, that's not any sort of shit, That's been pretty much my stance my entire time at DU...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:11 AM
Nov 2012

I can even go back and drag out some old posts where I criticised Hamas for their antisemitism, but it'll have to wait till tomorrow sometime, coz I'm not going to be rushing seeing I doubt you'll retract what you've said even if you do actually bother reading the link.


Once we get past that, we can continue on with how their ideology has poisoned and sickened Palestinian society.

What is it that yr just not comprehending about the fact that saying Palestinian society is sick and diseased is bigoted? What do you not get about being told repeatedly that the tactic you've used in this thread to justify a bigoted comment as not being bigoted is the same tactic used by antisemites to try to justify their bigotry against Jews? what people do when trying to justify bigotry is to trot out 'examples' based on their own ignorance and hatred and use that as *proof* . And it's apparently *proof* because they believe it is, and even though the same bigotry aimed at a group they support is quickly denounced by them as bigotry because they don't believe whatever *proof* accompanies that, they just don't see what they're doing...

So like I wrote earlier, you're against legit criticism of Palestinian leadership.

And it would be just as untrue as when you wrote it earlier. This time seeing it repeated after being corrected on it, I'd also point out that it's at the point where repeating it is dishonest.



Latest Pallywood Strategy [View all] shira Nov 2012 OP
Notice girl is waiting for camera at beginning of video... shira Nov 2012 #1
ah so those 'devious' Arabs disgise their children as blonds azurnoir Nov 2012 #2
Her colour is irrelevant henank Nov 2012 #3
or perhaps they listen to what Lieutenant Colonel Shaul Eisner azurnoir Nov 2012 #4
yeah... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #6
you mad bro" azurnoir Nov 2012 #7
His post is a bulls eye King_David Nov 2012 #15
The only bullseye was for the bigoted comment in that post Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #23
HUH ? King_David Nov 2012 #24
You agreed with the bigotry in their post. Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #25
There is none oberliner Nov 2012 #28
Here is the post yes it does seem to be all Palestinians not Palestinians who do this or that azurnoir Nov 2012 #29
Wrong post oberliner Nov 2012 #31
nothing in any of your comments indicated that and in fact you quoted from the comment azurnoir Nov 2012 #33
I quoted from the person who gave the response oberliner Nov 2012 #37
Again I'm telling you , King_David Nov 2012 #32
'scuse me but that poster has not been back, and you answered my reply to him azurnoir Nov 2012 #34
Yes but there's other posts too King_David Nov 2012 #35
Maybe you should put certain posters on ignore oberliner Nov 2012 #38
Yes thanks for that, King_David Nov 2012 #40
Transforms the entire DU experience oberliner Nov 2012 #41
I'm not following you around... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #36
Only one kind of bigotry seems to bother you oberliner Nov 2012 #39
as long as you wish to toss that thread in to the mix azurnoir Nov 2012 #50
In response to your questions oberliner Nov 2012 #60
I did not ask you any questions and it seems your calling me a bigot azurnoir Nov 2012 #65
You asked me three questions and I was calling you a friend oberliner Nov 2012 #67
Greta Berlin is just the tip of the iceberg revealing the true face... shira Nov 2012 #57
lol it just gets 'better and better' now these girls were on someones payroll? n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #64
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #93
Are you saying that Palestinian society is sick and diseased? (nt) shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #56
Are you saying, as a parent, you would send your little children.... shira Nov 2012 #68
I'm curious. Do you consider it bigoted to label Palestinian society sick and diseased? Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #71
I think we first need to agree how sick it is for parents to use their little kids... shira Nov 2012 #73
No, all you needed to do was answer the question I asked you... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #75
I think it's sick & disgusting to send yr own children out... shira Nov 2012 #76
That's not the question I asked you. Here's the question AGAIN... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #78
If Israeli society encouraged & rewarded this behavior, I'd say it's sick.... shira Nov 2012 #80
I asked for a simple yes or no answer. You still can't do it... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #82
The answer is NO, obviously. I don't have a problem labeling any society... shira Nov 2012 #85
Urgh, that's so ugly and revolting... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #86
It's fascinating what you find acceptable vs. ugly & revolting. n/t shira Nov 2012 #91
I find it totally bigoted if aimed at either Israelis or Palestinians... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #92
No, it's not bigoted at all. shira Nov 2012 #95
Sorry, but it most definitely IS bigoted... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #97
No, what you think is bigoted is every and any criticism of Hamas or Fatah... shira Nov 2012 #102
I really wish you wouldn't throw things out there that are blatantly untrue about my views... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #103
Again, Hamas and Fatah are DESTROYING Palestinian society... shira Nov 2012 #106
Again, you need to stop making up what the views of other DUers are... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #108
Oh? How have you criticized Hamas and Fatah before? shira Nov 2012 #114
Fatah for being corrupt, and Hamas for being extremist religious nutters... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #117
That's generic shit. You won't touch their incitement to murder Jews.... shira Nov 2012 #118
No, that's not any sort of shit, That's been pretty much my stance my entire time at DU... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #121
Oh, it's shit alright. Precisely what have you had to say.... shira Nov 2012 #127
I see now. You want to see where I've frothed at the mouth like a RW pro-settler lunatic? Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #129
No, I want to see some real criticism from you instead of denial... shira Nov 2012 #132
Since when has criticising Hamas and Fatah been 'denial and deflection'? Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #136
You won't touch their systematic child abuse vs. Palestinian kids shira Nov 2012 #148
I don't see how fair critique that is true, can be bigoted. aranthus Nov 2012 #133
I do, and I'll give you one example that I saw happen... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #139
Your example doesn't show bigotry. aranthus Nov 2012 #140
This message was self-deleted by its author shira Nov 2012 #77
So much projection and hate on your part. morningfog Nov 2012 #155
You don't see one thing wrong in that video, do you? shira Nov 2012 #5
actually you seem to be the one supporting it azurnoir Nov 2012 #8
Deflection. Again, do you support this kiddie resistance? n/t shira Nov 2012 #27
as I said above you seem to be the one promnoting this to score some antiPalestinian points azurnoir Nov 2012 #30
You claim not to see child abuse in that video. Says it all, really. shira Nov 2012 #42
yes Bassem Tamimi's daughter is being abused I would call having one father azurnoir Nov 2012 #46
Still claiming no abuse by mom and fellow activists? Amazing! shira Nov 2012 #47
abuse weren't there claims her parents weren't there ? azurnoir Nov 2012 #51
Riiiight. No abuse! Nothing to see here, now move along! n/t shira Nov 2012 #53
Here's some child abuse that's been posted before that you never seem to notice... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #89
It is child abuse... shira Nov 2012 #96
I knew there'd be a BUT there. There's no 'thankfully' when it comes to child abuse... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #98
Oh great, The Moral Equivalency fallacy strikes again shira Nov 2012 #100
Yr seriously sitting there trying to argue that child abuse is worse depending on who does it? Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #101
Smoking in front of your child isn't the same as raping your child. shira Nov 2012 #104
But the settlers were doing exactly the same thing as the Palestinians Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #107
Of course it's the same to you. shira Nov 2012 #109
They're both examples of child abuse, and neither should be minimised... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #112
You said they're exactly the same.... shira Nov 2012 #115
Actually I didn't. But you just keep on making up strawmen to knock over... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #119
Actually, you did say they're exactly the same. Shall I quote you? shira Nov 2012 #120
Both were putting their children in harms way with no regard to the children's safety... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #122
You're still minimizing what the Palestinian mother did to her girl.... shira Nov 2012 #125
Not at all. I'm pointing out how you minimised the settlers abuse... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #126
And I'm pointing out that you brought up another video to minimize the OP video.... shira Nov 2012 #128
No, if you'd actually bothered to read what I'd said, you know that's not true... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #130
You fear admitting what makes the OP video different than the settler one.... shira Nov 2012 #131
No, yr still not bothering to take any notice of what I'm saying... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #138
Oh, I've read what you had to say and it's complete & utter BS shira Nov 2012 #147
All praise the even tempered Israelis for practicing restraint morningfog Nov 2012 #156
You trying to say there's no blond Arabs King_David Nov 2012 #10
nice try but yes there are blond Arabs azurnoir Nov 2012 #12
How do you get that? From your post about gas ? King_David Nov 2012 #17
where did you get it? or don't you really know? azurnoir Nov 2012 #26
Well, you know how treacherous and sneaky those dirty pallies are! n/t Scootaloo Nov 2012 #69
So as a mom, you'd send your little child out to pick a fight with a soldier... shira Nov 2012 #70
Oooh, blood libel now, too. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #72
You dodged the question. Typical... shira Nov 2012 #74
Don't go accusing anyone of doing exactly what you've done in this thread... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #79
I had no problem answering. You have yet to do so... shira Nov 2012 #81
Bullshit. After being asked three times you still haven't given a straight answer... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #84
I was talking about the OP, Shira. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #83
When considering the girl is being cynically used for propaganda purposes.... shira Nov 2012 #87
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #90
I noticed that bit of racism in the OP as well... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #88
If you'd like to talk about racism WRT using blonde-haired Palestinian girls... shira Nov 2012 #149
crazy Mosby Nov 2012 #9
Can you think of any other examples in any other country.... shira Nov 2012 #11
No Mosby Nov 2012 #13
Popular non-violent resistance encouraged by... shira Nov 2012 #16
Pallywood: The Adventures Of Shirley Temper shira Nov 2012 #14
Anyone allowing their children to do this, King_David Nov 2012 #18
The FreeGaza, BDS, Mondoweiss crowd supports this resistance. n/t shira Nov 2012 #20
More Pallywood: From 2 years ago. Settler runs over youth... shira Nov 2012 #19
Disgusting child abuse nt King_David Nov 2012 #21
The Palestinians have the right to resist with their kids. n/t shira Nov 2012 #22
Money shot: Shirley Temper with Mahmoud Abbas shira Nov 2012 #43
Now for the REAL reason for this exercize in manufactured outrage about an incident from last June azurnoir Nov 2012 #44
Yes, we know you support putting Palestinian children deliberately in harm's way.... shira Nov 2012 #48
well 'we' know something but I'm not sure you have it right azurnoir Nov 2012 #49
How are the children in harm's way? shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #54
Non-violent stone throwing countered by tear gas.... shira Nov 2012 #55
Thats not a response to the question... shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #58
Really? You're comparing stone throwers to civil rights activists now? shira Nov 2012 #59
Certainly, there was stone-throwing at some of the civil rights marches in the US... shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #62
Stone throwing at Jewish motorists is nothing to be proud about... shira Nov 2012 #63
How come they're always "Jewish" when shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #94
That's so people can be swiftly labelled 'sick fucks' and 'Jew hating bigots' Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #99
If the OP video doesn't show a coordinated effort.... shira Nov 2012 #105
I'll refer you back to yr own words Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #110
Aww, you dodged another one. Let me know when you're ready... shira Nov 2012 #111
I didn't dodge anything. I'm just suggesting you apply what you say to yr own posts... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #113
Then discuss the significance of the OP video. I'll wait. shira Nov 2012 #116
I see you didn't bother reading what I said about there being no need to discuss what I said... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #123
Of course there's no need for you to criticize the most foul anti-Israel activism shira Nov 2012 #134
Again, you didn't bother reading what I posted. How about you give it a try? Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #137
More about the father Bassem Tamimi who Amnesty International has deemed prisoner of conscience azurnoir Nov 2012 #45
Cool. Amnesty supports father's child abuse too! And claims.... shira Nov 2012 #52
ya BTW haven't you made that claim about Save the Children and CARE International in the past? azurnoir Nov 2012 #61
Well, when children's rights groups pretend Palestinian children... shira Nov 2012 #66
I thought that du'ers were better than this Progressive dog Nov 2012 #124
This isn't about civil rights protesters. shira Nov 2012 #135
the link gives the details of the fathers arrest and release which coincide with this OP azurnoir Nov 2012 #144
I was pointing to the fact that the BBC is in on this Pallywood stunt as well... shira Nov 2012 #150
One instance does not make a strategy. aranthus Nov 2012 #141
It's not one instance. The soldiers were ordered previously not to react.... shira Nov 2012 #146
i was requested to comment...... pelsar Nov 2012 #142
But most likely not when there's witnesses with a camera or camera's azurnoir Nov 2012 #143
one forgets the cameras.... pelsar Nov 2012 #145
No cameras, no kids. This only works when the goal is demonization... shira Nov 2012 #151
BBC forgets to edit Pallywood attempt... shira Nov 2012 #152
Dead child cradled by Egypt's PM was killed by Hamas! shira Nov 2012 #153
Poor soldiers. Jesus, this seems desparate, on your part. morningfog Nov 2012 #154
Wow. You don't see what's going on in that video, do you? shira Nov 2012 #157
I am going to put you and you obvious propaganda on ignore. morningfog Nov 2012 #158
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EU diplomats now doing Pallywood shira Sep 2013 #161
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