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If you occupy a country, pennylane100 Oct 2012 #1
What does that have to do with Gaza? oberliner Oct 2012 #3
I realize that this reply is a little late, but just reread it pennylane100 Oct 2012 #46
OK thanks for the response oberliner Oct 2012 #52
If you fire missiles at Israel don't expect them to sit on their hands King_David Oct 2012 #10
Classic blowback coming to the increasingly unfriendly skies near you. leveymg Oct 2012 #2
Good question. What is the difference with arming Syrian insurgents and not the Palestinians? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #5
Iran? azurnoir Oct 2012 #6
ahh... hello- what about Iran?? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #7
the difference between arming the Palestinians and Syrian insurgents azurnoir Oct 2012 #9
so what? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #19
Maybe because according to Obama , King_David Oct 2012 #11
yeah - nothing to do with "freedom, liberty, justice, democracy" and all that other junk. Right? SESKATOW Oct 2012 #51
Israel is the USA's most important ally King_David Oct 2012 #58
I would say that is not accurate. SESKATOW Oct 2012 #64
Perhaps if you stated the question more clearly. bemildred Oct 2012 #43
wasnt it obvious -a comment on the hypocritical west SESKATOW Oct 2012 #50
Not really, I see all sorts of opinions here, and many don't even make sense. bemildred Oct 2012 #53
you left without giving your opinion SESKATOW Oct 2012 #54
OK, the difference is the Syrian insurgents will get weapons and the Palestinians won't. bemildred Oct 2012 #55
because??? then what a sham democracy the US has SESKATOW Oct 2012 #56
Ha ha King_David Oct 2012 #59
apparently you are unable to. Haha SESKATOW Oct 2012 #63
Have a nice day. bemildred Oct 2012 #65
my goodness - you cant engage SESKATOW Oct 2012 #66
Not with you. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #67
fair enought- its not in your comfort zone SESKATOW Oct 2012 #68
You don't know shit about me. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #69
Plenty now SESKATOW Oct 2012 #70
Yawn. bemildred Oct 2012 #71
I'd be very surprised ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #72
You never know, sometimes they calm down, sometimes they don't. bemildred Oct 2012 #73
No worries jabotinsky SESKATOW Oct 2012 #74
So, ummm, you want to take over now? bemildred Oct 2012 #75
No, my dear ol' mum told me ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #76
The MANPAD threat has already well spread ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #8
You don't seem to appreciate the dilemma that Libyan MANPADs present for Israel and the US leveymg Oct 2012 #13
I fully appreciate what they represent ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #15
My point is "those knowledgable in this matter" went ahead with regime change, regardless. leveymg Oct 2012 #17
Unfortunately it wasn't just the neocons pushing regime change ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #18
All these consequences were foreseeable, if one wants to foresee results rather than advocate policy leveymg Oct 2012 #20
There will hell to pay over this azurnoir Oct 2012 #4
It's really very Bush-like, very Neocon, bemildred Oct 2012 #44
well the players should watch where they leave their toys laying around that's for sure azurnoir Oct 2012 #45
Complete and utter bollocks shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #12
In the end analysis, this has everything to do with Libyan and Syrian regime change operations. leveymg Oct 2012 #14
From the SA-7 wiki shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #21
Same wiki also details dozens of combat and passenger jets shot down by SA-7s over the years leveymg Oct 2012 #26
No it does not... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #27
SA7 "ineffective against combat jets" Tell that to the pilot of this IAF Mirage (1973). Video: leveymg Oct 2012 #29
And, if you still don't think SAMs are dangerous to combat jets, here's a USAF F15 over Iraq leveymg Oct 2012 #30
Quit bullshitting shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #33
Quit being deceptive. It's a MANPAD - look at the relative size of the missile vs the plane leveymg Oct 2012 #34
Well, you posted the video shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #37
Your reasoning reminds me of a pretzel. leveymg Oct 2012 #38
I didnt post the video... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #39
I said that IAF F-4 fighter jets were downed by the SA-7 during the '73 War. leveymg Oct 2012 #40
You haven't provided much evidence of anything at all... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #41
We agree, then, about the serious threat posed by the SA-7 to civilian jets. leveymg Oct 2012 #42
There's still nothing to tie this to the Libyans... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #47
Nothing except that the number of MANPADs floating around on the world market has gone up 1000% leveymg Oct 2012 #48
Probably more like a million billion percent... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #49
I suggest you learn something about the technology and the history of its use ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #16
I doubt you'd know one end of a rifle from the other... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #22
Well for starters I know that that it uses IR and not RADAR ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #23
Well for starters you probably just googled it... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #24
Not at all...I have handled them ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #25
You're handling something... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #28
I think the US has more SA-7s than your magic militia friends ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #31
Yeah, and I'm sure you personally inspect them whenever you have the chance shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #32
You might want to consider that some of us here are former US military and/or DoD. ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #35
I also consider that quite a lot of you talk out of your arse... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #36
"Ive seen SA-7s and spoken to militia members who carried them" holdencaufield Oct 2012 #60
Its a big world out there boyo... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #61
So ... just to be clear ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #62
One of my favourite stories ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #57
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