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shira

(30,109 posts)
16. Nothing about controlling caloric intake there. Remember...
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:35 AM
Oct 2012

...Palestinians in a refugee camp bursting out in laughter at a reporter, telling him this isn't Darfur.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/dispatches/2010/08/gaza_is_not_darfur.html

GAZA CITY—Aid officials in Gaza all recite the same statistics: "44 percent unemployment [actually, 34%, we cannot expect a Slate reporter to actually check the facts, can we? -EoZ], 80 percent food-aid dependent, and 60 percent living on less than $2 a day." It sounds like a script they've grown tired of delivering to passing journalists.

After multiple rounds of similar briefings, I'm staring at Kamla Joudah's parlor in Nuseirat refugee camp, in the middle of the Gaza Strip. The warm beige tones of the furniture reflect the heat, and the walls gleam. The frequently cut power is on today, so the fan whirls. Tea and coffee are brought out on a small tray.

Kamla catches me appraising her home. "What are you looking at?" she asks, with some pique.
"Your house," I reply, "It's very nice."

She looks at me quizzically, "This is not Darfur," she snaps. The family members in the room burst out laughing as I blush.

The oft-recited statistics paint a bleak picture of life in the territory. But Gaza is a lot more complicated than the numbers suggest.

Comments like Kamla's are common here; everyone I speak to insists the coastal enclave is nothing like Somalia, Bangladesh, or the Democratic Republic of Congo. And people are indignant that I suggested it might be in the same league as those places.


They'd burst out laughing at you as well.


"There is food in Gaza. It's not a humanitarian crisis. There is no hunger, there is no starvation, but there is a crisis of another nature," says Mahmoud Daher, a World Health Organization official in Gaza, who was expressing his personal views, not those of his organization.

As Daher explains, the blockade has dramatically altered the standard of living for Palestinians in the territory. In three years, he assesses, Gazans have lost 20 years of economic development. And in that decline lies the root of the crisis in Gaza as he sees it.

"Inability to access quality care is a crisis, inability for people to produce and have access to jobs is a crisis, inability of people to get the quality of education that they are used to is a crisis, and above all a crisis of dignity—a crisis of humanity," Daher tells me.

Did you check the links to the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, as way back as 1993?

What was happening back then in 1993?

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Maybe you need to go back to the drawing board.

And again, if you guys are so worried about Palestinians (not that you are) one would think you'd bring up Egypt's role in this "blockade". With the Brotherhood in power, the Israeli "blockade" continues, even at the Gaza/Egypt border. The same Brotherhood you're supporting in Syria against Assad's forces.
a bit more detail on this azurnoir Oct 2012 #1
Document: Israel calculated calorie needs for embargoed Gazans bemildred Oct 2012 #2
It was never implemented. shira Oct 2012 #3
Some Israelis do indeed speak the truth. Great speech Miko Peled SESKATOW Oct 2012 #4
It must have been a translation error shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #5
he is being misquoted, possibly also taken out of context Alamuti Lotus Oct 2012 #6
+1. bemildred Oct 2012 #7
No one's claiming a translation error. There's zero evidence... shira Oct 2012 #8
well thanks for the input azurnoir Oct 2012 #9
Yes, there's zero evidence... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #10
Weisglass had an idea. How do you know it was implemented? shira Oct 2012 #11
I agree, no evidence at all... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #12
Nothing about controlling caloric intake there. Remember... shira Oct 2012 #16
ah that article was written after the Mavi Mamara incident that is forced Israel azurnoir Oct 2012 #17
It was just 2 months after. Palestinians in a refugee camp were laughing... shira Oct 2012 #18
A fair bit of the food aid was passing through the tunnels as well... shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #19
so goes life in I/P azurnoir Oct 2012 #20
once again with your solution to poverty and hunger post a picture and claim otherwise azurnoir Oct 2012 #13
The Red Cross should really take advantage of this shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #14
yep works everywhere azurnoir Oct 2012 #15
Rwanda doesn't have currently widespread issues with starvation oberliner Oct 2012 #22
according to the CIA World Fact Book azurnoir Oct 2012 #24
The headline in the OP is about malnutrition, not poverty oberliner Oct 2012 #28
you'd have to read the entire subthread to understand why that picture was posted azurnoir Oct 2012 #30
If there was starvation in Gaza, then surely you guys... shira Oct 2012 #31
if memory serves at that time (DU2) posting pictures in I/P was against the rules azurnoir Oct 2012 #32
IOW, there are no pictures. Because it's bullshit. shira Oct 2012 #33
still demonizing Carter eh? azurnoir Oct 2012 #34
Carter says they were starving. You say it's not about starvation. shira Oct 2012 #35
I think there are some myths about Gaza that ought to be dispelled oberliner Oct 2012 #37
Male echidnas have a four-headed penis shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #25
You introduced Rwanda into the conversation oberliner Oct 2012 #27
Sounds like something Bloomberg might try to implement in NYC oberliner Oct 2012 #21
actually the USDA averages are 2000-2500 calories per day azurnoir Oct 2012 #23
Not for females oberliner Oct 2012 #26
either way male or female the calculated calorie count is not out of line n/t azurnoir Oct 2012 #29
Agreed oberliner Oct 2012 #36
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