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shira

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32. In that other post, I quoted his anti-Jewish bigotry in order to show...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 04:59 PM
Sep 2012

...that he cannot be taken seriously on any issue involving Israel. If he makes a good point every now and then, that's fine. He's still a bigot who should be ejected from the so-called anti-racist, progressive, pro-Palestinian movement. As should fellow bigots like Finkelstein, Atzmon, Booth, Galloway, Kaufman, Loewenstein, Barat, Tonge, and the trash who frequent EI and Mondoweiss. The fact is that all those bigots routinely participate in, and have significant roles (sometimes leadership) in popular anti-zionist venues run by the ISM, PSC, FGM, and BDS.

It is those organizations just mentioned that represent the anti-Zionist movement worldwide. Correct me if I'm wrong. And that's one big reason anti-Zionism is anti-semitism in disguise. If you take out the nazi comparisons, stereotypes, libels, elders of zion, etc... that leaves a very minuscule <1% anti-Zionist movement.



Thanks shira for posting more from former apartheidist Steve Apfel azurnoir Sep 2012 #1
When you have nothing, attack the messenger with something/anything? shira Sep 2012 #2
ummm Apfels ravings against the ANC and Desmond Tutu would tend to speak for themselves n/t azurnoir Sep 2012 #5
Umm, no they don't. But what's really interesting... shira Sep 2012 #9
Surely everyone here 'attacks the messenger' LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #11
So you attack the messenger no matter the message.... shira Sep 2012 #20
Yet in another post you say... LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #29
In that other post, I quoted his anti-Jewish bigotry in order to show... shira Sep 2012 #32
ANC members does not mean "non whites" King_David Sep 2012 #3
well thanks for the info about Ronnie Kasrils, if memoery serves azurnoir Sep 2012 #4
Like I said , King_David Sep 2012 #6
it doesn't mean White either as you implied azurnoir Sep 2012 #7
Huh? King_David Sep 2012 #8
but "zionists" and "israelis" means "Jews" right? shaayecanaan Sep 2012 #46
Kasrils being in the ANC is enough to call into question... shira Sep 2012 #10
If he's Jewish, he's not an antisemite...End of discussion. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #12
Really? If Bridget Gabriel and Wafa Sultan are bigots.... shira Sep 2012 #14
Because they don't want nazi-like results. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #17
You don't think Atzmon is an anti-semite? How about... shira Sep 2012 #18
Fischer was. Like Atzmon, however, Fischer was totally self-marginalizing-we all knew he was nuts. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #19
So you're wrong about Jews who can't be antisemitic.... shira Sep 2012 #21
Atzmon is simply an irrelevant madman. He doesn't matter. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #23
He's not irrelevant to the ISM, FGM, Richard Falk, or Walt/Mearsheimer... shira Sep 2012 #24
The anti-zionist movement isn't responsible for Atzmon. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #25
You wrote earlier Bobby Fischer was an anti-Semite. He's Jewish... shira Sep 2012 #27
Why is it so important to label Atzmon an antisemite? Isn't it enough Ken Burch Sep 2012 #30
You won't label Atzmon an anti-semite despite the experts' definition... shira Sep 2012 #33
No...ALL of that is antisemitism. I denounce all of them. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #34
So to be clear, those who spew great amounts of anti-semitism.... shira Sep 2012 #35
Why the necessity? I'll say this... Ken Burch Sep 2012 #36
The point is, despite what experts about anti-semitism say.... shira Sep 2012 #37
As you said...he was ejected. And rightly so. That means he no longer matters. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #42
"Atzmon simply isn't an important figure and he has no following at all." oberliner Sep 2012 #43
Atzmon's fan club includes Mearsheimer, Falk.... shira Sep 2012 #45
He does matter. See post #41 below. shira Sep 2012 #44
untrue Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #49
Jews can definitely be (and have been) antisemites oberliner Nov 2012 #51
Shira...STOP relentlessly equating all criticism of Israel with antisemitism! Ken Burch Sep 2012 #13
You can't argue against any points in the OP, can you? n/t shira Sep 2012 #15
The OP is contempible bilge. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #16
Ken its the going theme let it be azurnoir Sep 2012 #22
How can you say certain people and organizations take a stand vs. anti-semitism.... shira Sep 2012 #28
The Balad party is bad...it's also too small to be a threat to anybody. Ken Burch Sep 2012 #31
But it's leader, Zoabi, is loved and admired within the anti-Zionist movement.... shira Sep 2012 #39
Anti-zionism (not criticism) is anti-semitism. n/t shira Sep 2012 #47
No. JoeyT Sep 2012 #26
If they're entirely separate groups, how do you explain a creature.... shira Sep 2012 #38
I don't know who Gilad Atzmon is, JoeyT Sep 2012 #40
His ouster did cause some splintering, but the point is.... shira Sep 2012 #41
Christians attacked in Jerusalem. No Jews were involved. MSM ignores story. You do the math. shira Sep 2012 #48
Having been a former semi-basher...... AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #50
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