Israel/Palestine

Fantastic Anarchist

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82. Absolutely Agreed. nt

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Why Israel Should Withdraw From the West Bank—Now [View all] bemildred Aug 2012 OP

Saudi Arabia wants to "cozy up" to Israel? oberliner Aug 2012 #1

He's the "managing editor of Foreign Affairs", I wouldn't dismiss anything he says out of hand. nt bemildred Aug 2012 #2

Because that worked so well in Gaza. Fozzledick Aug 2012 #3

another one...geographically and historically challenged.. pelsar Aug 2012 #4

And if rockets rain down on the Israeli cities,no big deal. Swede Aug 2012 #5

ah but if rockets rain down from the WB sabbat hunter Aug 2012 #6

what good what that do us? pelsar Aug 2012 #7

8/1/2012 : Israeli tanks cross Gaza border after detecting missile azurnoir Aug 2012 #8

As long as you occupy them... shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #9

I am sure Missycim Aug 2012 #10

as a matter of fact, i would be shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #19

So do you think Israel Missycim Aug 2012 #20

If they withdraw from the West Bank, yes shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #21

So for Israel to be allowed to defend Missycim Aug 2012 #22

so what then if you believe Israel so has to stay in the WB? azurnoir Aug 2012 #31

I dont think either situation Missycim Aug 2012 #32

Ah, the unshakeable certainty of faith... shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #34

You don't see violence from Palestinians in the WB b/c you choose not to see it... shira Aug 2012 #86

Really, thats the best you can do? shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #88

Do many home invasions and intended robberies involve decapitating a three-month old baby? oberliner Aug 2012 #91

Probably not... shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #95

I am under no delusions-IMO Israel has no intention of giving up one sq cm. of the West Bank azurnoir Aug 2012 #35

Arab Peace Initiative. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2012 #83

Not much of a peace initiative when it calls for 100% withdrawal from the WB and full... shira Aug 2012 #85

Some of the dictators who proposed that have been deposed oberliner Aug 2012 #94

I suppose some of us think that the Palestinians shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #33

what withdrawal?....up to where? pelsar Aug 2012 #23

You have a strangely myopic view. Bradlad Aug 2012 #11

So you're saying that the settlements are military defence installations? shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #14

You seem to favor some facts over others. Bradlad Aug 2012 #72

You don't seem to favour any facts at all... shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #81

Absolutely Agreed. nt Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2012 #82

Of course it's a big deal, but the WB isn't Gaza. aranthus Aug 2012 #12

Please explain . . Bradlad Aug 2012 #13

Hamas was already in charge of Gaza... shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #15

another version of raping history... pelsar Aug 2012 #16

I prefer to think of it as furthering your education... shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #18

then try not to rape history..... pelsar Aug 2012 #24

Don't forget Dahlan: bemildred Aug 2012 #25

I said that they were in control... shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #36

"...a western backed Fatah coup" shira Aug 2012 #37

We seem to have wandered some distance from my original point... shaayecanaan Aug 2012 #38

you don't like timelines....nor the "locals" pelsar Aug 2012 #39

I don't know what that has to do with my question. Bradlad Aug 2012 #46

I will give it a shot. aranthus Aug 2012 #26

Not bad. bemildred Aug 2012 #27

wow...where have you been? pelsar Aug 2012 #41

If you think what you are doing now is risk-free, by all means continue. nt bemildred Aug 2012 #44

i was just bringing your post back to reality... pelsar Aug 2012 #48

Yap yap yap yap ... bemildred Aug 2012 #49

I'm glad you're willing to risk... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #42

It's not me that's risking Jewish lives. nt bemildred Aug 2012 #43

Do you think moving half-a-milllion Jews into the midst of a couple million hostile Arabs, bemildred Aug 2012 #45

I appreciate your attempt. Bradlad Aug 2012 #47

Thanks for your response. aranthus Aug 2012 #67

I first thought of . . Bradlad Aug 2012 #71

Again, I think you have misunderstood me. aranthus Aug 2012 #73

Excellent reply. Thanks Bradlad Aug 2012 #80

Aside from . . Bradlad Aug 2012 #84

but thats not true "every effort".... pelsar Aug 2012 #17

I'm only interested in what the great majority of Israelis think. aranthus Aug 2012 #28

Poll: 64% of Israelis back continued settlement activity azurnoir Aug 2012 #30

lol no Pelsar the time has passed to "destroy the settlements" azurnoir Aug 2012 #29

you misunderstood.... i was making fun of the "lefts" mantras pelsar Aug 2012 #40

no either you misunderstand or are trying to avoid azurnoir Aug 2012 #50

since when do i avoid anything here?.... pelsar Aug 2012 #52

you seem to miss the part about about movement azurnoir Aug 2012 #56

the'll put up their own roadblocks like hamas pelsar Aug 2012 #58

and what will state look like as far as area goes? azurnoir Aug 2012 #59

Hamasnikim are Palestenians.... pelsar Aug 2012 #60

well azurnoir Aug 2012 #64

Why do you write "G-d" ? oberliner Aug 2012 #69

habit why it doesn't seem right the other way(s) azurnoir Aug 2012 #70

hamas are a point not to be ignored... pelsar Aug 2012 #74

Azurnoir, are you saying Israel can't offer the Clinton Initiatives or Olmert's offer anymore? n/t shira Aug 2012 #54

has Israel shown any inclination to do this? azurnoir Aug 2012 #55

Please stop moving the goalposts. You keep claiming that with settlement expansion.... shira Aug 2012 #61

I take it the real anwer is NO Israel has shown no inclination to do this azurnoir Aug 2012 #63

"The Gaza Experiment"? Scootaloo Aug 2012 #77

I don't think that Israel's going to give up an acre of the West Bank. no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #51

israel wont be needing the water.... pelsar Aug 2012 #53

really now is it? which is cheaper desalination or simply pumping water? azurnoir Aug 2012 #57

cheaper than war..... pelsar Aug 2012 #62

again azurnoir Aug 2012 #65

and israel wants peace with its neighbors.... pelsar Aug 2012 #66

Israel wants quite a few things azurnoir Aug 2012 #68

a simple technical explanation.... pelsar Aug 2012 #75

lol except that these fabled desalination plants do not yet quite exist do they? azurnoir Aug 2012 #78

two are working and more are in the plans.... pelsar Aug 2012 #79

Desalination and the Israel-Palestine issue azurnoir Aug 2012 #87

why do you do that?...some kind of point system? pelsar Aug 2012 #89

oops is correct lol azurnoir Aug 2012 #90

well? pelsar Aug 2012 #92

omg already explained several posts back azurnoir Aug 2012 #93

try again.... pelsar Aug 2012 #96

what 'withdrawal' and from where? azurnoir Aug 2012 #97

the whole gaza experience.... pelsar Aug 2012 #98

seriously back 7 years really? azurnoir Aug 2012 #99

They should stop the illegal settlements and they need to get back to the negotiating table now /n still_one Aug 2012 #76