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shira

(30,109 posts)
24. Rights trump culture & religion
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:27 AM
Jul 2012

September 6, 2006
iranian.com

Cultural relativism and its more seemingly palatable multiculturalism have lowered standards and redefined values to such depths that not only are all cultures and beliefs deemed equally valid, they seem to have taken on personas of their own blurring the distinction between individuals and beliefs (whether theirs or imputed).

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Cultural relativism is not only a prescription for inaction and passivity in the face of the oppression of millions of people struggling and resisting in the Middle East and here in the west but is in fact racist in and of itself.

This is because it implies that masses of people choose to live the way they are often forced to and imputes on them the most reactionary elements of culture and religion, which is that of the ruling class, imams and self-appointed leaders. I am supposedly automatically Muslim because I was born in Iran as if that is the only option available; the Muslim Council of Britain, the Islamic Human Rights Commission and the rest of them supposedly automatically represent me – though I wouldn't touch any them with a ten foot barge pole.

Cultural relativism also implies that Islam and political Islam represent all those who are considered Muslims – whether they were born or living in the Middle East, Asia or North Africa or once came from there umpteen generations ago. It would be similar to assume that the Catholic Church (that is during the inquisition) and the right wing British National Party represent all British.

It's as if there are no classes, political, social and rights activists, communists, atheists, progressives, humanists, rationalists or secularists among this group - all are Muslims and the most reactionary of Islamists at that!

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http://www.iranian.com/Namazie/2006/September/Relativism/index.html
How is this any different from private religious schools Trillo Jul 2012 #1
Well,Hamas has thrown folks it disagrees with off the roofs of buildings. Swede Jul 2012 #2
well yes indeed that oft repeated incident did happen in June of 2007 azurnoir Jul 2012 #4
Yes bad move for Hamas King_David Jul 2012 #7
" worst imaginable and unparalleled ,atrocities ." so apparently you discount azurnoir Jul 2012 #8
From Rwanda ? Really ? King_David Jul 2012 #9
you seem to understand that not all Africans are Black Kudo's but I did not say they were azurnoir Jul 2012 #10
Good point. Bradlad Jul 2012 #3
Did you read the article one of "converso's" has returned home azurnoir Jul 2012 #5
Yes, I agree. Bradlad Jul 2012 #6
so honor killings are part of Arab culture rather than Muslim? azurnoir Jul 2012 #11
You haven't read a lot on this subject, have you? oberliner Jul 2012 #12
apparently you did not fully read your own link azurnoir Jul 2012 #14
Actually Bradlad Jul 2012 #13
what I find so 'intersting' is that it is only called honor killing when an Arab or Muslim azurnoir Jul 2012 #15
In cultures that are Bradlad Jul 2012 #16
um in 'cultures' such as rightwing Christians in this country it is much the same in fact azurnoir Jul 2012 #17
Just curious. Bradlad Jul 2012 #18
actually I think they're generally the same azurnoir Jul 2012 #19
respecting other cultures.... pelsar Jul 2012 #20
You seem pretty determined yourself. Bradlad Jul 2012 #21
sir what I posted was in response to this from you azurnoir Jul 2012 #22
I understand this is an uncomfortble topic for you. Bradlad Jul 2012 #23
Rights trump culture & religion shira Jul 2012 #24
yes shira tell how Cultural relativism is a dirty thing azurnoir Jul 2012 #26
as I said I agree with you on violenece against women and girl in all in forms being abominable azurnoir Jul 2012 #25
what is wrong with focusing on one group?.... pelsar Jul 2012 #33
Any culture condoning or practicing Honor Killing is an inferior culture, King_David Jul 2012 #27
and explain please which countries by name should in your book not be allowed to exist ? n/t azurnoir Jul 2012 #28
Read my post King_David Jul 2012 #29
your post simply said societies in avoidance of naming countries perhaps? azurnoir Jul 2012 #30
I'm going to post my opinion on DU King_David Jul 2012 #31
But without further explanation of a statement like "should not be allowed to exist" azurnoir Jul 2012 #32
As I said there is no need, King_David Jul 2012 #34
well before I can agree or disagree I must know exactly what is meant when azurnoir Jul 2012 #35
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