Israel/Palestine

shira

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39. It is? So the USA is occupying over 25 other nations right now since US troops are deployed....

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 06:03 PM

Jul 2012

...in over 30 other countries?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments

What good is it to not allow the freaks in Hamas airspace? Do you have to ask? With far nastier weapons, Hamas will ignite a war with Israel that will make OCL seem like kindergarten in comparison. Yours is a warmongering, anti-humanitarian position.

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The Levy Report and the ‘Occupation’ Narrative [View all] shira Jul 2012 OP

WRT the international community comparing Israel's "occupation" with other nations.... shira Jul 2012 #1

You must be getting desperate for comparisons! kayecy Jul 2012 #2

Since Oslo, Turkey has far more effective control of Cyprus than Israel does of Gaza or the WB... shira Jul 2012 #3

You agree Israel is the occupying power in Area C (62%)...... kayecy Jul 2012 #4

Sorry, but it's complete nonsense when you believe Gaza is still occupied... shira Jul 2012 #5

so you disagree with the UNSC interesting indeed n/t azurnoir Jul 2012 #6

I believe in one standard for all. Got a problem with that? n/t shira Jul 2012 #7

well seeing as how apparently azurnoir Jul 2012 #8

When the UN says that what NATO does in Libya is not occupation, and it's more invasive than Gaza... shira Jul 2012 #9

Still waiting for your apples & oranges comparison...... kayecy Jul 2012 #10

See #5. It's still a joke when you claim Gaza is occupied. There's no IDF presence there... shira Jul 2012 #12

The article you posted had nothing to do with Gaza.... kayecy Jul 2012 #21

Based on your response, it's obvious you can't defend the argument that Gaza is occupied... shira Jul 2012 #23

Thank you for at last getting round to explaining ....... kayecy Jul 2012 #24

Again, 4GC Article 6 makes it clear Israel doesn't meet the description of an occupying power... shira Jul 2012 #26

No...you believe in annexing the West Bank and telling the Palestinians Ken Burch Jul 2012 #14

Really? That's what I believe? Where'd you get that from? Now as to Hamas/occupation... shira Jul 2012 #17

The IDF isn't on the soil of Gaza Ken Burch Jul 2012 #27

Why do you repeat the same old, tired, refuted arguments? You make them, your arguments.... shira Jul 2012 #49

I actually think you really do believe King_David Jul 2012 #25

No, I don't claim to read minds Ken Burch Jul 2012 #28

Ken, prove what you are accusing me of. Or admit you're wrong. n/t shira Jul 2012 #33

You have repeatedly revived the "Jordan is Palestine" canard. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #40

So you think I'm for greater Israel, some form of apartheid, ethnic cleansing...or what? n/t shira Jul 2012 #46

At best, you're for reducing Palestinians to something like a Luxemburg-like statelet Ken Burch Jul 2012 #53

Really? After I've repeatedly said I'd accept the Clinton Initiatives and Olmert's offer... shira Jul 2012 #57

Links to prove your nasty claims? King_David Jul 2012 #59

It's not nasty. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #62

I am sure if it is not a fabrication, King_David Jul 2012 #65

This was a couple of months ago. I'll find it. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #67

No link huh ? King_David Jul 2012 #68

I just posted the link. Didn't you read it? Ken Burch Jul 2012 #70

Ken, be honest. Where did I back Eldad's proposal? Or anything remotely rightwing? shira Jul 2012 #78

You were talking about how it would be the ultimate "happy ending" Ken Burch Jul 2012 #79

Then summarize, please. I was very clear. Show me where my view = Eldad's. n/t shira Jul 2012 #82

you get really close to it in posts 25, 33, 43, 75 in the linked thread(among others) Ken Burch Jul 2012 #89

You've gotta be kidding. Well, this proves you only battle make-believe straw man arguments... shira Jul 2012 #96

Here's the link: Ken Burch Jul 2012 #69

"Nasty"......That is a very insulting heading.......... kayecy Jul 2012 #71

Almost as nasty as some posts King_David Jul 2012 #72

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #73

Just looked at one of your links, King_David Jul 2012 #74

None of those links match the order of the names you posted, which matched Rense... shira Jul 2012 #75

Just check out the site linked to ,it is even worse, King_David Jul 2012 #77

You call that proof enough to justify a NASTY libel? kayecy Jul 2012 #83

I did reply, King_David Jul 2012 #84

And things like THAT shouldn't be posted. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #86

Muddled post King_David Jul 2012 #52

If you feel that way, put me on ignore. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #54

What a Joke King_David Jul 2012 #58

If you think I'm a joke, put me on ignore Ken Burch Jul 2012 #63

Prove it, Link it up,this should be good. King_David Jul 2012 #60

Put you on ignore?! holdencaufield Jul 2012 #61

+ 1 King_David Jul 2012 #66

You don't believe any such thing. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #16

Double standards means more is expected from Israel than any other nation on earth... shira Jul 2012 #18

Nobody has denied that Turkey occupies Cyprus. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #31

When the EU accepted Cyprus, "occupation" was never mentioned. n/t shira Jul 2012 #47

I'm fairly sure, though, that they only accepted the Greek part of Cyprus. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #87

N.Cyprus is not an occupation to the EU, but Gaza somehow is... shira Jul 2012 #97

If another country controls your airspace and water supply, you are NOT sovereign. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #15

That's not an occupation, however. Cyprus is occupied. Gaza is not. n/t shira Jul 2012 #19

Nobody has denied that Cyprus is occupied Ken Burch Jul 2012 #29

The point of the OP is to show how Israel does not legally occupy Palestinian territory. shira Jul 2012 #34

Why are you obsessed with that one point? Ken Burch Jul 2012 #44

Why do you think Israel's accusers insist Gaza is occupied? What's their goal? n/t shira Jul 2012 #45

It's "critics of the Israeli government", not "Israel's accusers". Ken Burch Jul 2012 #88

Here's what I don't get Ken. Bradlad Jul 2012 #90

You're not making the distinctions that are needed Ken Burch Jul 2012 #91

You are the one who is avoiding . . Bradlad Jul 2012 #100

+1 holdencaufield Jul 2012 #101

After sleeping on this . . Bradlad Jul 2012 #105

Egypt is also responsible then for this faux-occupation (blockade) of Gaza.... shira Jul 2012 #98

Nobody has ever denied that Cyprus is occupied Ken Burch Jul 2012 #32

The difference b/w occupation and siege is trivial? Do you even know the difference? n/t shira Jul 2012 #35

It's occupation when another country's troops are on your soil Ken Burch Jul 2012 #38

It is? So the USA is occupying over 25 other nations right now since US troops are deployed.... shira Jul 2012 #39

Israel would have nothing to lose from allowing direct commercial airline service to Gaza. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #41

Which of course Hamas would never use for military purposes. Get real, Ken. n/t shira Jul 2012 #48

Satire is dead... shaayecanaan Jul 2012 #11

Occupation denial? really? Ken Burch Jul 2012 #13

You're consistent, Ken. Another straw man... shira Jul 2012 #20

You reference does not show that Israel has ended its occupation of Gaza..... kayecy Jul 2012 #22

If Gaza is occupied then Israel is obligated to govern there, carry out all law and order there... shira Jul 2012 #36

If your army is on another country's soil, without invitation, for all practical purposes Ken Burch Jul 2012 #30

ROTFLOL! Statement of the day... shira Jul 2012 #37

In a lot of ways, the U.S. has limited political choices in the countries where it's put troops Ken Burch Jul 2012 #42

You were wrong about troops on another nation's soil. You realized it and edited your post.... shira Jul 2012 #50

I clarified my post Ken Burch Jul 2012 #64

on that soil without invitation. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #43

You're wrong about that too. NATO intervened in Libya and the UN was careful... shira Jul 2012 #51

I'm not responsible for NATO's terminology. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #55

No, the UN made it clear that it wasn't an occupation. However, the UN maintains Gaza... shira Jul 2012 #56

What terminology would you use then? Scootaloo Jul 2012 #76

Blockade. n/t shira Jul 2012 #80

A blockade that will be lifted...? Scootaloo Jul 2012 #85

When the government of Gaza stops making war on Israel. Not a moment sooner. n/t shira Jul 2012 #93

And what is the determining factor in "stops making war" Scootaloo Jul 2012 #102

Is that not self-explanatory? NT holdencaufield Jul 2012 #103

Try me. Scootaloo Jul 2012 #104

It's not like that would be LESS unacceptable. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #92

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Apartheid. eom Purveyor Jul 2012 #81

Gaza? A blockade is now an act of apartheid? Okayyyyy. n/t shira Jul 2012 #95

You keep using that word... holdencaufield Jul 2012 #99