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In reply to the discussion: The Levy Report and the ‘Occupation’ Narrative [View all]kayecy
(1,417 posts)21. The article you posted had nothing to do with Gaza....
As to your other points, I wish to settle Gaza first before moving onto the WB. Otherwise, the conversation is a joke.
Interesting, you apparently think the US and the UN view on Gaza is a joke......I guess this is just another case of everyone-being-out-of-step-but-Shira.
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The article you posted had nothing to do with Gaza....You and the famously impartial Dore Gold then compared the International Communitys reaction to the Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus, but neither of you produced any evidence to indicate why Turkeys occupation should be considered comparable to Israels occupation.
Having been picked up on this, and realizing you had no support for your claim, you introduced Gaza as a red-herring.....You then went on to demand an answer to your red-herring or you would consider this conversation a joke.
The next red-herring you introduced was a claim that I and the UN etc are comicaly wrong, no doubt hoping I would forget that you had offered no substantiation to your Turkish occupation reference.
As you have failed with first your Gaza diversion, then your comically wrong diversion, I imagine your next red-herring will be to introduce more of your anti-semite innuendo.
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WRT the international community comparing Israel's "occupation" with other nations....
shira
Jul 2012
#1
Since Oslo, Turkey has far more effective control of Cyprus than Israel does of Gaza or the WB...
shira
Jul 2012
#3
When the UN says that what NATO does in Libya is not occupation, and it's more invasive than Gaza...
shira
Jul 2012
#9
See #5. It's still a joke when you claim Gaza is occupied. There's no IDF presence there...
shira
Jul 2012
#12
Based on your response, it's obvious you can't defend the argument that Gaza is occupied...
shira
Jul 2012
#23
Again, 4GC Article 6 makes it clear Israel doesn't meet the description of an occupying power...
shira
Jul 2012
#26
Really? That's what I believe? Where'd you get that from? Now as to Hamas/occupation...
shira
Jul 2012
#17
Why do you repeat the same old, tired, refuted arguments? You make them, your arguments....
shira
Jul 2012
#49
So you think I'm for greater Israel, some form of apartheid, ethnic cleansing...or what? n/t
shira
Jul 2012
#46
At best, you're for reducing Palestinians to something like a Luxemburg-like statelet
Ken Burch
Jul 2012
#53
Really? After I've repeatedly said I'd accept the Clinton Initiatives and Olmert's offer...
shira
Jul 2012
#57
Ken, be honest. Where did I back Eldad's proposal? Or anything remotely rightwing?
shira
Jul 2012
#78
you get really close to it in posts 25, 33, 43, 75 in the linked thread(among others)
Ken Burch
Jul 2012
#89
You've gotta be kidding. Well, this proves you only battle make-believe straw man arguments...
shira
Jul 2012
#96
None of those links match the order of the names you posted, which matched Rense...
shira
Jul 2012
#75
Double standards means more is expected from Israel than any other nation on earth...
shira
Jul 2012
#18
If another country controls your airspace and water supply, you are NOT sovereign.
Ken Burch
Jul 2012
#15
The point of the OP is to show how Israel does not legally occupy Palestinian territory.
shira
Jul 2012
#34
Why do you think Israel's accusers insist Gaza is occupied? What's their goal? n/t
shira
Jul 2012
#45
The difference b/w occupation and siege is trivial? Do you even know the difference? n/t
shira
Jul 2012
#35
It is? So the USA is occupying over 25 other nations right now since US troops are deployed....
shira
Jul 2012
#39
Israel would have nothing to lose from allowing direct commercial airline service to Gaza.
Ken Burch
Jul 2012
#41
If Gaza is occupied then Israel is obligated to govern there, carry out all law and order there...
shira
Jul 2012
#36
If your army is on another country's soil, without invitation, for all practical purposes
Ken Burch
Jul 2012
#30
In a lot of ways, the U.S. has limited political choices in the countries where it's put troops
Ken Burch
Jul 2012
#42
You were wrong about troops on another nation's soil. You realized it and edited your post....
shira
Jul 2012
#50