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In reply to the discussion: Are Israeli Settlements Legal? Electronic Intifada’s Ali Abunimah vs. Commentary’s Jonathan Tobin [View all]shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)67. I think you're starting to lose the plot, Brad...
No, I don't acknowledge that at all. You're being consistent again, making no attempt at all to be objective or even-handed. First, I was referring the Jordanian,Syrian and Egyptian armies ethnically cleansing the WB, Gaza and the Golan of Jews in 1948-9 - which is the ethnic cleansing that was being corrected by the settlements, post-'67.
That's simply incorrect, Brad. The Golan Heights is Syrian territory. It was never part of Palestine, and therefore Jews never settled there until 1967 when it was occupied by Israel. Certainly there were Jews living in Syria, but they were traders mainly in Damascus and the larger city centres, not farmers in the Golan.
And as I pointed out to you, the British evacuated the Jews from Hebron in 1929. That left the small community in Etzion, which was seized by the Arab Legion only after repeated attacks by the kibbutzim on both Arab and British convoys. Apparently self defence is not a prerogative to which Arabs are entitled in your worldview.
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Are Israeli Settlements Legal? Electronic Intifada’s Ali Abunimah vs. Commentary’s Jonathan Tobin [View all]
shira
Jul 2012
OP
International Law Is Pretty Clear, Sir, And Dates Back More Than a Century In Current Form
The Magistrate
Jul 2012
#3
Not A Very Impressive Document, Sir: Netanyahu Appointed People To Write What He Wanted To Read
The Magistrate
Jul 2012
#7
The Argument Has No Merit Whatever, Sir, And Israel Does Not Hold Legal Sovereignty
The Magistrate
Jul 2012
#11
Israel Is Engaged In Military Occupation, Sir, Of Territory It Had, And Has, No Sovereignty Over
The Magistrate
Jul 2012
#17
When You Have Reviewed The 1907 Hague Convention, Sir, Try 'The Blind Men And The Elephant'...
The Magistrate
Jul 2012
#24
You would concede that none of this applies to Israel's settlements in Syrian territory?
shaayecanaan
Jul 2012
#35
The Palestinians don't have legal sovereignty either. And Jews do have rights to settlement...
shira
Jul 2012
#16
Israeli govt inducements for Israelis to live beyond the green line is not forceful transfer....
shira
Jul 2012
#29
Military Occupation Does Not Presume A State's Prior Sovereignty, Nor Is That Necessary For It
The Magistrate
Jul 2012
#20
Shira,I am 100% behind Israel,you can tell by my posts here. The settlements need to be dismantled.
Swede
Jul 2012
#4
The current borders are no more or no less defensible than the 1967 borders...
shaayecanaan
Jul 2012
#33
If either Abunimah or Tobin said that the sky was blue and the grass was green
LeftishBrit
Jul 2012
#13
I'm an apostate Jew. I've been listening to the brainwashing and the altered history.
PDJane
Jul 2012
#57
The conflict couldn't have been avoided, because the Ergun started the terrorism
PDJane
Jul 2012
#60