Israel/Palestine

bumprstickr

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36. 2 relevant points

Reply to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:31 PM

Oct 2015

First, Israel will rule over them clearly means that there will be no independent State of Palestine. The only way to take this statement.

Second, "to me, they are like animals, they aren't human" tells me all I need to know about the mindset of this government minister.

Refusal to allow a state and considering people as less than human is the sign of a state that will never allow peace, or a settlement based on law.

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Palestinians will never have a state and will be ruled by Israel — says Israeli minister [View all] R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 OP

Hamas leader says group will never recognize Israel oberliner Oct 2015 #1

Israel’s Deputy Defense Minister Eli Ben-Dahan... R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #2

Hamas won the Palestinian legislative elections of 2006 oberliner Oct 2015 #3

Thank you for pretending Israeli bigotry at the highest levels don't exist, ober. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #5

They obviously do exist oberliner Oct 2015 #35

And the past one, and the past one... R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #38

No, the current government is RW. The one before was not. oberliner Oct 2015 #39

Huh? The last government that wasn't right-wing was the one with Ehud Barak that lost in 2001. Little Tich Oct 2015 #42

Olmert was the PM before Netanyahu oberliner Oct 2015 #43

Kadima was a right-wing party that was an offshoot from Likud, and any labor left-wing politics Little Tich Oct 2015 #45

Kadima isn't anymore rightwing than the US Democratic Party.... shira Oct 2015 #46

I can't imagine how Kadima is even remotely similar to the US Democratic Party. Little Tich Oct 2015 #48

So glad you accept both as right-wing. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2015 #60

No it wasn't oberliner Oct 2015 #47

Being one step to the left of Likud's extreme right doesn't really make you centrist. Little Tich Oct 2015 #49

So the argument is that Ariel Sharon was not a rightwinger? nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #52

Sharon was a right-winger oberliner Oct 2015 #54

Ollmert and Livni are not significantly different from US Democrats.... shira Oct 2015 #50

I'm not to keen on discussing the political attitudes of Jews, Little Tich Oct 2015 #53

I don't see why not since the Jewish state is the topic here 24/7 shira Oct 2015 #57

The reason why I don't want to discuss Jewish political attitudes is because it's a slippery slope Little Tich Oct 2015 #62

And yet, Mondoweiss does Jewish political stereotyping 24-7.... shira Oct 2015 #64

"like Jews are in Israel" R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #63

There were no Palestinian legislative elections of 2008 azurnoir Oct 2015 #31

Oops - 2006 oberliner Oct 2015 #34

Don’t go to Israel - ANC R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #4

ANC factions sacrificing citizens' rights for anti-Israel agenda oberliner Oct 2015 #7

As always, Ober, you try to change the subject! BillZBubb Oct 2015 #6

What's the subject? oberliner Oct 2015 #8

"The Jewish Home party in Israel is as far RW as you can get over there." R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #9

The Jewish Home party won 8 seats oberliner Oct 2015 #11

Let me type this again for you, and I'll type very clearly. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #12

Hamas rules Gaza - Haniyeh is the leader of Hamas oberliner Oct 2015 #17

I'm not sure why you keep on brining up Hamas since I don't support them. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #20

The difference is Hamas is 100x worse than Israel's rightwingers.... shira Oct 2015 #22

And the "Israel us not as bad as some other assholes" R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #23

Israelis and Palestinians both seem to support right-wing leadership oberliner Oct 2015 #24

Hamas isn't a Democracy whereas R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #27

hamas participated in the '06 elections Mosby Oct 2015 #28

Deomocracy is ongoing. Not just once. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #29

....... azurnoir Oct 2015 #32

Not some other 'assholes', but all other Western nations that Israel.... shira Oct 2015 #40

HAHAHAHAHA! I'm not sure if you are completely out of your depth or are just feigning naiveté. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #41

England and Europe have been fighting in other nations thousands of miles away... shira Oct 2015 #44

"killing millions " Bullshit. Once again, you can't even complete a sentence without your argument R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #56

Over 1 million dead from Iraq alone. And you pretend Israel is 100x worse.... shira Oct 2015 #58

England and Europe are not responsible for 1,000,000 Iraqi dead. You're off the deep end once again. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #61

Ah, Hamas --Israel's baby. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2015 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author FBaggins Oct 2015 #10

Why does Google translate it this way? oberliner Oct 2015 #13

Since google isn't human it can make mistakes. Since Israel’s Deputy Defense Minister Eli Ben-Dahan R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #14

You are probably right oberliner Oct 2015 #15

"Not quite comparable to the Hamas legislators who run Gaza..." R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #16

Well I'm glad you think Hamas is a terrorist organization oberliner Oct 2015 #18

That has always been my position. I also see the Israeli government as corrupt R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #19

Fair enough oberliner Oct 2015 #25

Far from fluent. Igel Oct 2015 #21

Interesting oberliner Oct 2015 #26

what difference does it make to the statements meaning? None that I can see despite the bolding azurnoir Oct 2015 #30

There will be a state vs. There won't be a state oberliner Oct 2015 #33

ut said there'd be a state controlled by Israel ie no state azurnoir Oct 2015 #37

If Israel controls it, it's not a state. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #51

I'm not really arguing with that oberliner Oct 2015 #55

2 relevant points bumprstickr Oct 2015 #36