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75. rather disingenuous to pretend this is about a few

Reply to King_David (Reply #74)

Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:49 PM

Sep 2015

praying Jews rather than a naked power play.

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Jews Barred From Temple Mount Ahead of Muslim Holiday [View all] oberliner Sep 2015 OP

The reverse was true the last few days unc70 Sep 2015 #1

Israel has a permanent de facto blockade of that area and forbids most geek tragedy Sep 2015 #2

That's a lie oberliner Sep 2015 #7

I don't think there should be a war with Jordan. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #14

Nor do I oberliner Sep 2015 #17

the people praying are merely the foot in the door, the tip of the spear. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #22

So freedom only applies to some Mosby Oct 2015 #95

No, that's the Israeli position. I know you and your fellow travelers really geek tragedy Oct 2015 #113

Wishful thinking King_David Oct 2015 #114

go on and whistle past that graveyard. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #116

Try push that Zionist square through your circle King_David Oct 2015 #118

hey, feel free to demonstrate how Israel can withdraw from the West Bank geek tragedy Oct 2015 #120

1000 years King_David Oct 2015 #121

so you don't have an argument that Israel can leave the west bank. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #122

He never did. That's why his arguments always fall on their face. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #142

Is Bernie Sanders a "Hasbarist"? King_David Sep 2015 #9

Mosques are being blown up around the world with countless Muslims killed oberliner Sep 2015 #10

Of course ... King_David Sep 2015 #11

There's always the Kotel that Jews can pray at. Right? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #63

What the fuck are you going on about? Mosby Oct 2015 #94

There is no site. It's a mosque. It's been a mosque for 1,400 years. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #102

The mosque was built on top of two temples Mosby Oct 2015 #104

Wrong as you usually are. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #106

that's an interesting "progressive" opinion RDO Mosby Oct 2015 #117

Give up Judaism holiest site he says and go pray somewhere else he says King_David Oct 2015 #119

Christians did pretty well when they decided to give up on holy sites and Crusades and turned geek tragedy Oct 2015 #133

Agreed , for both sides.. King_David Oct 2015 #134

You think religious Christians are worth emulating? King_David Oct 2015 #137

no, pointing out that their fortunes picked up when they stopped obsessing geek tragedy Oct 2015 #138

Yes, I do have the chutzpah to stand up for the victims. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #139

"Give up Judaism holiest site..." R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #140

The poster your engaging seems to have become a critic of Jewish faith and articles King_David Oct 2015 #115

"The poster your engaging seems to have become a critic of Jewish faith and articles" R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #141

Lol, no it was not built on top of a temple. It was built on top of the geek tragedy Oct 2015 #123

the alaksa mosque was built in the 700s Mosby Oct 2015 #124

And proof that Muhammed ascended to heaven from Jerusalem ? King_David Oct 2015 #125

do you realize how stupid it looks for one side in a religous dispute to complain that the other geek tragedy Oct 2015 #127

I am an Atheist myself, King_David Oct 2015 #128

both sides are peddling superstitions, but it's not superstitions geek tragedy Oct 2015 #129

Agreed King_David Oct 2015 #130

all religion is myth by definition, as is your claim that the mosque was built on top of a temple geek tragedy Oct 2015 #126

So you accept that the Royal Stoa existed? oberliner Oct 2015 #131

I see no reason to dispute that 1900 years ago there was a Jewish temple there. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #132

Do you think Mohammed ascended to heaven at the spot where the Dome of the Rock is located? oberliner Oct 2015 #135

I don't believe in supernatural events, so no. nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #136

Bernie Sanders is not taking a position to the right geek tragedy Sep 2015 #12

With the anti Zionist rhetoric and anti Israel extremism King_David Sep 2015 #16

Bernie is more responsible than Netanyahu. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #29

Bernies views on Israel are identical to half those posting in this group King_David Sep 2015 #40

Who are you calling an anti-zionist, dave? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #64

Step away from politics for a moment oberliner Sep 2015 #20

The issue isn't Jews standing around praying, it's what follows after that. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #23

Of course a few Jews from a total of 12 Million should not be allowed to pray at their holiest site King_David Sep 2015 #24

You're deliberately ignoring the point, this is not about "a few Jews." geek tragedy Sep 2015 #25

So best to trample on Minority rights King_David Sep 2015 #26

Who is Faldo? oberliner Sep 2015 #27

Ha ha King_David Sep 2015 #41

Jews are the majority, dominant, privileged group inside Israel. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #28

But we're talking about Jews standing around just mumbling quietly to themselves. oberliner Sep 2015 #31

Do you really think that it would end with very small groups standing around mumbling to themselves? geek tragedy Sep 2015 #37

"But we're talking about Jews standing around just mumbling quietly to themselves." R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #66

The very reason the Jewish state exists King_David Sep 2015 #39

Are there currently Jewish holy sites in the hands of others? nt geek tragedy Sep 2015 #42

Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron oberliner Sep 2015 #47

The IDF controls access to the site, and regulate the activities of the mosque there, forbidding geek tragedy Sep 2015 #48

This is not true oberliner Sep 2015 #51

So what? 99.7% of the people living there are Muslims/Arabs, not Jews. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #52

You asked for someone to identify a Jewish holy site under these conditions oberliner Sep 2015 #54

that right of return thing is going to get interesting geek tragedy Sep 2015 #55

The settlement in Hebron would have to be removed as a part of any two-state solution, even the Little Tich Sep 2015 #71

Some of those jewish families in hebron Mosby Oct 2015 #96

If they want to live there, they can rent like anyone else and be good neighbours. Little Tich Oct 2015 #97

Israel routinely restricts muezzin calls to prayer from the mosque because they bother the settlers azurnoir Sep 2015 #73

The last time the Kotel was in Jordan's hands Jews were barred from visiting King_David Sep 2015 #62

Do you consider the Cave of the Patriarchs to be in the hands of others? geek tragedy Sep 2015 #56

I am not proposing a change to the current arrangement oberliner Sep 2015 #57

question was directed at King David who geek tragedy Sep 2015 #58

Apparently you think so, King_David Sep 2015 #61

You keep on ignoring the main issue. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #69

Chalk and Cheese King_David Sep 2015 #74

rather disingenuous to pretend this is about a few geek tragedy Sep 2015 #75

And that's the way they are playing it in Isrrael. Always playing honest. Always playing victim. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #77

Speaking of Jordan oberliner Sep 2015 #30

Israel should continue to honor the agreement with Jordan that has kept the peace geek tragedy Sep 2015 #32

I completely agree. Here's what it says about Jerusalem: oberliner Sep 2015 #36

But #3 does not mean undermining #2. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #38

Ah, hope springs eternal with the ever-present view of the colonizer. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #65

You really wasting your time talking to me King_David Sep 2015 #72

"I don't ever engage you... I don't reply to you and I will not either" R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #76

Conflagration on the island of stability Israeli Sep 2015 #3

Thanks, useful context :) TubbersUK Sep 2015 #5

Adam Keller nonsense from top to bottom oberliner Sep 2015 #8

So spoke the captain ... Israeli Sep 2015 #78

Netanyahu did the right thing. Little Tich Sep 2015 #4

"Israeli police on Thursday barred all non-Muslims from entering ..." oberliner Sep 2015 #6

So you favor a war with Jordan? nt geek tragedy Sep 2015 #13

Of course not oberliner Sep 2015 #18

It would not end with "Jews standing around and praying." geek tragedy Sep 2015 #21

But that is enough of a "desecration" to threaten war oberliner Sep 2015 #33

it's a red line. the lesson that has been learned is that if you give the Israelis an inch, they'll geek tragedy Sep 2015 #34

I think this is actually a human rights issue, and that those issues shouldn't be resolved on Little Tich Sep 2015 #15

"the ongoing Judaization of Jerusalem..." oberliner Sep 2015 #19

If you find my dislike of racism offensive, then so be it. Little Tich Sep 2015 #35

How does one dislike racism while being against Jewish ties to Jerusalem? shira Oct 2015 #89

Any establishment and enhancement of those ethnic / religious ties should be made under the umbrella Little Tich Oct 2015 #92

All people (citizens especially) have rights to live anywhere within Israel... shira Oct 2015 #93

You know that you're factually wrong. Arabs of East Jerusalem can't live anywhere else in Israel, Little Tich Oct 2015 #98

I take it you don't believe Jews have any rights on the Temple Mount.... shira Oct 2015 #100

Some links to descriptions of Israel's discriminatory land policies: Little Tich Oct 2015 #109

You have no idea what you are talking about oberliner Oct 2015 #110

Do you have any links that would help dispel my ignorance on this issue? n/t Little Tich Oct 2015 #112

"Medina was once home to many Jews, incidentally - until they were "ethnically cleansed..." R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #67

Jews aren't ethnically cleansing Muslims. shira Oct 2015 #88

When you decide to stop conflating Jew with Israeli R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #90

Not conflating at all. Name 3 non-Jewish Israelis you take issue with... shira Oct 2015 #91

I didn't order a word salad from you, nor do I expect one to be delivered or I should pay for one. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #99

If I'm conflating, then name 3 prominent non-Jewish Israelis you loathe... shira Oct 2015 #101

I'm not going to play your goal post moving game tonight, shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #103

You prove my point. You criticize only "Israelis" and yet... shira Oct 2015 #105

Try re-reading post 103 and read it this time. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #107

Yawn. n/t shira Oct 2015 #108

Yes, you have nothing to say, really. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 #111

ok, how would you prevent DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #43

It's hypothethical, but possible that the tables could be turned in some way. Little Tich Sep 2015 #45

the thing is DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #46

I would agree with that. Little Tich Sep 2015 #70

Did you really type leftynyc Sep 2015 #49

I really can't help you if the mere thought of equal rights puts bile in your throat. Little Tich Sep 2015 #68

Uh - no leftynyc Sep 2015 #80

Indeed. I saw through this one since I first came here. grossproffit Sep 2015 #82

I try and give everyone leftynyc Sep 2015 #86

You too! Thank you. grossproffit Sep 2015 #87

Related to this? Abbas: We welcome every drop of blood spilled in Jerusalem 6chars Sep 2015 #44

And to the surprise leftynyc Sep 2015 #50

Lol, people are ignoring a press release from the ultra-rightwing Israeli geek tragedy Sep 2015 #53

Here is a video of the actual remarks made by Abbas oberliner Sep 2015 #59

he's honoring those killed by the Israelis as martyrs. He's not celebrating the geek tragedy Sep 2015 #60

Sorry MFM008 Sep 2015 #79

Not sure what you mean by "camp" oberliner Sep 2015 #81

He probably means this " camp " oberliner........... Israeli Sep 2015 #83

That makes sense oberliner Sep 2015 #84

You are very welcome ....nt . ....:) Israeli Sep 2015 #85