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In reply to the discussion: US Senate dramatically scales down definition of Palestinian ‘refugees’ [View all]aranthus
(3,385 posts)33. Why should the Palestinians be treated differently than other groups?
The real reasons are:
1. So that they can be a weapon to use against the existence of the Jewish State of Israel.
2. So that the Arab states can avoid their responsibilities as co-aggressors in the war against Israel.
3. So that the Palestinians can avoid their responsibility for starting the war that made them refugees iin the first place.
None of these justify disparate treatment. So why should the US support disparate treatment that merely perpetuates and exacerbates the problem?
By the way, all Palestinians today have been born with a state. Most have merely been denied their right to citizenship within the state of their birth. How is that Israel's fault?
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US Senate dramatically scales down definition of Palestinian ‘refugees’ [View all]
Mosby
May 2012
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"perma-status" as refugees? no it's about the length of time and in the case of Palestinians
azurnoir
May 2012
#17
I pointed out that less than half of all Palestinians are classified as refugees
azurnoir
May 2012
#20
Nope. All I remember saying about it is that it applies to refugees in general...
shira
Jun 2012
#49
well that's justification right there and even if from the ME they were most likely
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#50
well it is hard to continue as you were not the person I was addressing in the first place
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#57
194 doesn't necessarily apply to Arab refugees. There were Jewish refugees from Judea/Samaria....
shira
Jun 2012
#61
people often claim that the Jewish settlements in the WB are the major barrier to a 2 state solution
Mosby
May 2012
#21
so you are claiming that even with the existence of a Palestinian state the Arab "regimes"
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#67
Yes, even with a Palestinian state the refugees would be expected to go to Israel....
shira
Jun 2012
#70
The Arab Peace initiative also called for normalization of relations between all signatory Arab
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#96
It calls for Israel withdrawing behind 1967 lines completely before Arab regimes...
shira
Jun 2012
#102
your right on 12/14/47 an army convoy was attacked 0 were killed in retaliation 5 Palestian children
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#48
Dishonest that on December 18 1947 Jewish forces killed 5 Palestinian Arab children
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#88
Israel lobby’s favorite senator tries to erase Palestinian refugee status for millions
Scurrilous
May 2012
#4
Why should Palestinian refugees be treated differently from all other groups before or since?
aranthus
Jun 2012
#32
If the UN doesn't think it's evil that descendants of refugees remain perpetual victims...
shira
Jun 2012
#63
Daniel Pipes says he and Steve Rosen drove Senate re ‘so-called’ Palestinian refugees
Scurrilous
May 2012
#7
I do. Their descendants are not going to Israel, so why waste anymore time pretending...
shira
Jun 2012
#40
Thanks for posting that it seems the attrition method of solving the Palestinian refugee
azurnoir
May 2012
#26
wouldn't advocating for the destruction of Israel be antisemtic? yes or no? n/t
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#60
I adovcate for RoR along with a Palestinian state but sadly it seems you along with a couple of
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#69
so even with a Palestinianstate they would be forced to go to Israel? and Obama would support this?
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#80
Can you first admit the plan back in 1948 was for refugees to be used as political pawns...
shira
Jun 2012
#82
if it was then you are claiming that that the UN and the 'Arabs" have some crystal ball that foresaw
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#83
You seem not to believe as Obama does that this can be solved with diplomacy (negotiations) ?
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#97
No, it can't be resolved diplomatically. That's been proven, since before the 1947...
shira
Jun 2012
#103
Define the version of RoR you support. All, most, some, or just a few refugees...? n/t
shira
Jun 2012
#66
The same RoR Israel has granted it's now majority population along with a Palestinian state
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#68
So that means full RoR, correct? Similar to Israel's law of return where anyone Jewish...
shira
Jun 2012
#71
As long as there is also a Palestinian state of course Israel would retain the right
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#75
so Palestinian will not be welcome in a Palestinian state I see how interesting indeed and once agai
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#85
But the POTUS does support Abbas and a Palestinian state that you claim Palestinians will not be
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#95
Does Israel reserve the right to refuse Jews RoR because of criminal history or security risk? n/t
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#98
You seem to believe that Israel would be required to accept Palestinians RoR in a way that
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#106
I find it odd that this thread seems so important to some here that despite the fact that
azurnoir
Jun 2012
#89
Sen. Kirk sides with Israel, tweets 'disappointed' in BBC Olympics coverage
Scurrilous
Jul 2012
#112