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pelsar

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58. changing the subject of my remarks......i am only interested in your blanket accusations....
Wed May 30, 2012, 01:03 AM
May 2012

you stated very clearly...and this is not the first time either:
made a general blanket statement and accusation that we, those of us who serve, do what hamas does: which is target innocent people, to terrorize them

i personally find that insulting, degrading, racist, and ignorant.....that is the sole point of my remarks. You accused us (and yes, its its us who serve, not any robots) of believing similar to what hamas members believe, because they too are people, Some Palestinians to be exact, who represent the present governing body of Gaza

i repeat, do not change the subject,

One false claim made in the editorial: Ken Burch May 2012 #1
The second false claim made in the editorial Ken Burch May 2012 #2
Third false claim: Ken Burch May 2012 #3
The final paragraph at least makes a reasonable point, but misses the fact that almost all critics Ken Burch May 2012 #9
Actually Ken, there are many (even some here at DU) who argue the Jews are not a people... shira May 2012 #23
Questioning where there is such a thing as a single "Jewish people" is NOT the same thing Ken Burch May 2012 #29
So you're wrong WRT that claim, b/c there are people who deny that Jews are a people... shira May 2012 #33
Look, Israel exists and nobody still thinks they can really get rid of it. Ken Burch May 2012 #35
Its not unfair at all. Its common for a country to apply different terms to in its various Dick Dastardly May 2012 #41
There's no justification for making Palestinian leaders agree to things Ken Burch May 2012 #44
Yes there is justification, if genuine peace is the goal... shira May 2012 #76
It's enough for them to accept two states. Ken Burch May 2012 #82
No, it's not. Not when the PA/Hamas teach the Palestinian public... shira May 2012 #83
You do realize, though Ken Burch May 2012 #85
You keep bringing up Hamas. I'm still talking about the PA... shira May 2012 #87
The PA recognized Israel in 1994. That put the recognition issue to rest for Fatah's part. Ken Burch May 2012 #89
If Zionists want to cease being thought of as colonialist Ken Burch May 2012 #90
Denial to the Nile. aquart May 2012 #5
Uh, no. Ken Burch May 2012 #10
If claim #2 is not what anti-zionists believe, then what do they believe? n/t shira May 2012 #22
Simply that both communities should live as equals in the same state Ken Burch May 2012 #25
Well, at least you got that off your chest... shira May 2012 #31
I am against Hamas and have said so repeatedly. Ken Burch May 2012 #34
Scary. The best you can do against all that genocidal incitement from Hamas... shira May 2012 #38
What do you want? Ken Burch May 2012 #39
Do you really not get... holdencaufield May 2012 #40
If there'd been no West Bank and Gaza occupations, there'd have been no Hamas Ken Burch May 2012 #43
Respectfully - you're wrong holdencaufield May 2012 #65
I expect way more from anti-racist progressives who say they take all forms of... shira May 2012 #72
Because Belgium is doing so well? RZM May 2012 #46
There's no Belgian equivalent to either Hamas or the Irgun Ken Burch May 2012 #47
All I'm saying is that it isn't working RZM May 2012 #49
The status quo isn't working either, in case you haven't noticed Ken Burch May 2012 #50
Not really, As I said before RZM May 2012 #51
It's bigoted to assume that the Palestinians would just keep fighting no matter what. Ken Burch May 2012 #52
I'm all about granting them these lands. So it's tough argue I don't think they are Palestinian RZM May 2012 #56
That first paragraph in your post Ken Burch May 2012 #59
Bullshit. Given and taking lands is pure power politics RZM May 2012 #62
Let's take a look, shall we? holdencaufield May 2012 #70
You may have gotten that slimy personal attack past the jury Fozzledick May 2012 #53
It's fair comment about that posters' views. Ken Burch May 2012 #55
All I see coming from you is a bigoted personal attack. Fozzledick May 2012 #57
You see what you see Ken Burch May 2012 #60
So why do you falsely accuse her of bigotry? Fozzledick May 2012 #61
Her posts are predicated Ken Burch May 2012 #66
Your false assumptions about how she thinks. Fozzledick May 2012 #68
I agree with what Fozzledick said nt King_David Jun 2012 #101
"She's against peace..defending the Occupation and the settlements proves that" holdencaufield May 2012 #71
It's a slimy personal attack, Ken... shira May 2012 #77
The fact that they support the initiative does NOT mean Ken Burch May 2012 #81
But you said any offer that leaves the bulk of the settlements within Israel.... shira May 2012 #86
I support Geneva but not the settlement position it takes. Ken Burch May 2012 #88
Well now it doesn't matter what you support. The PA won't agree to negotiating anything reasonable shira Jun 2012 #94
How do you know this? BudT May 2012 #20
What's false about it? Jew murdering is deemed legal resistance to occupation by the ISM... shira May 2012 #21
No it isn't. Ken Burch May 2012 #24
The ISM and its cheerleaders say armed resistance is legitimate. Look it up. n/t shira May 2012 #32
The use of force on BOTH sides is equally wrong Ken Burch May 2012 #37
of course there is no moral difference...i personally find looking to kill muslim children gods work pelsar May 2012 #42
You should just stop serving in the West Bank. It's right-wing to be there at all. Ken Burch May 2012 #45
changing the subject of my remarks......i am only interested in your blanket accusations.... pelsar May 2012 #58
Can you honestly say that innocent Palestinians NEVER get killed? Ken Burch May 2012 #48
dont change the subject..... pelsar May 2012 #54
Don't YOU change the subject Ken Burch May 2012 #63
you have clearly state that the morality of hamas and that of the IDF is the same.....indirectly pelsar May 2012 #64
Not what I was saying. Ken Burch May 2012 #67
your words.....you wrote them pelsar May 2012 #69
Too damned bad! FiveGoodMen May 2012 #4
Hey, I way prefer criticism to exploded buses. aquart May 2012 #7
I'm glad you accept that some criticism can be legitimate Ken Burch May 2012 #17
any more deserved? Shaktimaan Jun 2012 #96
Again, I don't actually AGREE with the editorial in the OP Ken Burch May 2012 #13
My tone was directed at the JPost, not at you. FiveGoodMen May 2012 #18
Ok...just wanted to make sure people understood Ken Burch May 2012 #19
Wow, so there's one thing in the world above criticism... Israel. I got a bridge sinkingfeeling May 2012 #6
Compassion is rubber bullets. aquart May 2012 #8
Compassion is rubber bullets? Ken Burch May 2012 #12
Untrue. Shaktimaan Jun 2012 #97
Because the settlements are inherently unjust. Because no Palestinian leadership can accept them Ken Burch Jun 2012 #99
are they? Shaktimaan Jun 2012 #108
You really think that... Shaktimaan Jun 2012 #98
It's clearly been made much worse by Israeli actions. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #100
Is it... Shaktimaan Jun 2012 #102
The notion that Palestinian actions are driven mainly by antisemitism Ken Burch Jun 2012 #103
Well... Shaktimaan Jun 2012 #105
We don't know the whole history there Ken Burch Jun 2012 #106
There's no compassion in punishing an entire family for what one person in that family did Ken Burch May 2012 #15
I don't agree with the editorial in that OP Ken Burch May 2012 #11
This is not an editorial by the Jerusalem Post, it is an opinion piece by Benjamin Kerstein. . . Journeyman May 2012 #14
They still published it. Ken Burch May 2012 #16
It's not really hairsplitting LeftishBrit May 2012 #27
It hardly makes it alright, though, if the Post published this because they thought Ken Burch May 2012 #30
The OP challenges acceptance of open discussion and debate? Au contraire.... shira May 2012 #79
The author of that editorial demonizes ANY criticism of anything the Israeli government does Ken Burch Jun 2012 #91
Well then if that's the case, you do the same thing anytime... shira Jun 2012 #93
Enough has been said about the videos Ken Burch Jun 2012 #104
It absolutely is not hair splitting. Look, I strongly cali May 2012 #73
You posted it here oberliner May 2012 #74
it should be posted and I for one am glad Ken did azurnoir May 2012 #75
Shocking oberliner May 2012 #78
Not shocking. I'm no longer surprised anymore with anything the anti-I contingent believes.... shira May 2012 #80
I wasn't saying that anybody here at DU agreed with the OP Ken Burch May 2012 #84
Wasn't saying anybody here did. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #92
I did not claim that you did oberliner Jun 2012 #95
Oh. Sorry. Didn't realize who you were responding to. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #107
Well, I disagree obviously... LeftishBrit May 2012 #26
As I explained in the note at the bottom of the OP, I disagree with the argument that the link makes Ken Burch May 2012 #28
This is what you want to move into GD? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #36
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