Israel/Palestine

oberliner

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42. You should read some of his other blog posts for the Times of Israel

Reply to Jefferson23 (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 16, 2015, 06:21 PM

Jun 2015

Something tells me you wouldn't continue saying he knows what he is talking about if you did.

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You’re the reason BDS is winning! [View all] Jefferson23 Jun 2015 OP

I don't see anyone around here defending settlements Mosby Jun 2015 #1

There exists an indifference to the Palestinians cause and I am being generous and kind by using Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #3

Israelis don't believe the W.Bank must be Jew-free in order for there to be peace shira Jun 2015 #6

I have read your posts here for years, that you imagine he is the one with the problem is Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #7

Think about the opposite. There can only be peace if Israel rids itself entirely.... shira Jun 2015 #8

That is not what he said, that is your nonsense. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #10

Land swaps is far preferable than Jew free King_David Jun 2015 #12

A bantustan is not a viable state..that is a fact. The OP's message is lost to you just like it is Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #14

It wouldn't be a bantustan. You're against any land swaps whatsoever.... shira Jun 2015 #17

Pass your nonsense to someone who does not read. This OP knows what he is talking about Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #18

So BDS supports the Zionist enterprise (a Jewish state) alongside.... shira Jun 2015 #22

You should read some of his other blog posts for the Times of Israel oberliner Jun 2015 #42

There will be land swaps King_David Jun 2015 #66

The insult is coming from anyone who suggests a bantustan is a viable state....I'm not Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #69

It's not a suggestion King_David Jun 2015 #70

It is not unfair, it will be criminal. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #72

Call it whatever you want King_David Jun 2015 #73

Won't change the injustice, and it won't fool the Palestinians for long, either. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #74

Not with the legions of western "armchair " Palestinian supporters advising/ leading the Palestinian King_David Jun 2015 #79

Yea, it is from that playbook of yours, when in doubt..try and smear, also bring up, Hamas. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #81

No, that's what BDS wants. A Jew free W.Bank. shira Jun 2015 #15

The West Bank does not belong to Israel, period and leaving them a bantustan will leave no Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #16

No, BDS does not believe Jews belong in Jerusalem or any other part... shira Jun 2015 #19

You crack me up..I am going to send the author of this OP a thank you and a link Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #20

You have no answers because u realize how racist the BDS position is. n/t shira Jun 2015 #21

Read the OP again, if you like. Israel is in violation of international law and they get away Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #23

You have no answer to racist BDS being for a Jew free Palestine. shira Jun 2015 #31

Your blindness is showing as well as your inept analogy. Under international law Israel has never Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #37

Israel? I'm talking about Jews who have a right to live in their historic homeland.... shira Jun 2015 #44

Your sense of history is riddled in propaganda and has nothing to do with the fact that Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #48

Yes or No? The W.Bank must be free of Jews in order for Palestine to be viable? shira Jun 2015 #51

It is their land, who they want to live on it is their choice. The OP is written by a man Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #54

So if their choice is a Jew-Free Palestine, you will support that.... shira Jun 2015 #56

This guy here is left wing? I think you better read his history. Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #57

Yeah he is, & I asked YOU whether Palestine is viable with no Jews in it.... shira Jun 2015 #58

It is racist for the Palestinians to have a state of their own? No. Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #59

If they demand a Jew free state, then yes. You know that so why the pretense? n/t shira Jun 2015 #61

Do you ever read what you post? Astonishing that you would even suggest that the Palestinians Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #63

Well, it is racist & fascist to support & advocate for a Jew free country.... shira Jun 2015 #75

Not according to one of your pals here he isn't. Take it up with them. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #60

No, it's that everyone you disagree with is rightwing. I'll bet you can't name.... shira Jun 2015 #62

Call AIPAC for any further clarification on the US Congress. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #64

So when you vote Democratic & they oppose BDS, you're voting.... shira Jun 2015 #76

Huh? Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #78

I assume you vote Democratic. Problem for you is that Dems oppose BDS.... shira Jun 2015 #80

You don't make any sense, at all. Do you not acknowledge the existence of AIPAC? Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #82

Huh? Are you saying AIPAC controls the Congress, Senate, & POTUS? n/t shira Jun 2015 #85

No, I told you to call them and get clarification on the US Congress. Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #87

Chuck Hagel claimed the same crap & Lindsey Graham..... shira Jun 2015 #88

That doesn't answer my question, I said the following to your question: Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #89

Again, sounding a lot like Chuck Hagel's nonsense. shira Jun 2015 #91

You asked me a question regarding AIPAC and control. I said, No, call AIPAC and ask them for Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #92

Okay fine, AIPAC told me Article 22 of the Hamas charter is correct.... shira Jun 2015 #93

I honestly feel very sorry for you. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #94

Don't know why you aren't celebrating AIPAC admitting that Hamas is right.... shira Jun 2015 #95

I asked you to call them to clarify what they do and what they accomplish with the US Congress. Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #97

You're not talking about Jews first. You are talking about Israeli colonists. Illegal ones. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #96

Are there any Jewish Palestinians? oberliner Jun 2015 #98

Seemingly at this point the relevence of that query is dubious. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #105

All your answers are in the OP, for the most part. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #25

No they're not. You have no answers & neither does he. n/t shira Jun 2015 #34

Well, he is not telling you what you want to hear, true. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #39

He's not telling it period. Otherwise you'd quote him. n/t shira Jun 2015 #41

I am certain of one thing, that anyone who is familiar with your posts can figure out where Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #45

So quote him. Or fold. n/t shira Jun 2015 #47

Fold on what, that he describes people with your mindset? You are treading past the absurd Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #50

You folded. Figures. n/t shira Jun 2015 #53

I do .....nt. Israeli Jun 2015 #120

I had to read that one to see if the title actually meant what it said azurnoir Jun 2015 #2

IOW, this article is saying that Jews are the reason for antisemitism. shira Jun 2015 #4

He wrote this article for people with your mindset. I am sure he would not be surprised at your Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #5

His article is not just naive but idiotic, so I wouldn't care what he thinks.... shira Jun 2015 #9

I'm sure you don't care..no worries. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #11

Another mind reader I see , lol King_David Jun 2015 #13

When did anti-Semitism become synonymous with anti-apartheid, guillaumeb Jun 2015 #24

Accusing Israel of Apartheid is not legitimate criticism; It's defamation & slander shira Jun 2015 #28

How much Palestinian land did Lebanon steal? guillaumeb Jun 2015 #29

Irrelevant if you're truly anti-Apartheid shira Jun 2015 #32

"Irrelevant" is an interesting way to describe victims of state sponsored terrorism. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #35

Yeah, irrelevant to those claiming to be anti-Apartheid shira Jun 2015 #38

"Accusing Israel of Apartheid is not legitimate criticism; It's defamation & slander" R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #100

How can someone be anti-Apartheid WRT Palestinians while condoning... shira Jun 2015 #102

Wel, shira. I don't live in pretend world where Israel can do no wrong, and seeing how this is the R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #108

Why would pro-Palestinians against Apartheid ignore the real thing.... shira Jun 2015 #111

I don't ignore the real thing that Israel practices. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #112

Do you have a problem with real Apartheid in Lebanon vs. Palestinians? shira Jun 2015 #115

Many of the problems that the Palestinians now face are due to Israel and the Nakba. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #117

"Palestinian killing regime...the systematic rape of a people" oberliner Jun 2015 #103

Why would one need a mask to state the truth? R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2015 #109

No it is not unless of course you are once again substituting Jews for Israeli azurnoir Jun 2015 #30

Obama clearly believes anti-Zionists are antisemitic Jew haters shira Jun 2015 #33

Can you post that quote with a link to Jeff Goldberg interview where you claim he said that azurnoir Jun 2015 #36

Why play games with what Obama clearly meant? shira Jun 2015 #40

I'm not the one making wld eyed claims about Obama said azurnoir Jun 2015 #43

He was asked about antizionism = antisemitism & explained when that's the case. shira Jun 2015 #46

I don't have to play or make wild extrapolations either but some do :) azurnoir Jun 2015 #65

You're wasting your time, Shira leftynyc Jun 2015 #130

Recommended. I forgot to say that before responding to shira. eom guillaumeb Jun 2015 #26

Thank you for that, I appreciate your posts and to those who take the time to read Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #27

If you like this post, you should read some of his other ones (Goldberg, that is) oberliner Jun 2015 #52

When Muslims murder Palestinians oberliner Jun 2015 #49

How else to interpret this ongoing 'silence' other than that they condone.... shira Jun 2015 #55

still attempting to foist that BS about Abbas off on folks? Broke out the bold for that even azurnoir Jun 2015 #68

So you think this blogger is full of crap here? But you like his blog post in the OP? oberliner Jun 2015 #71

generally I do avoid ToI's blogs I only read the OP azurnoir Jun 2015 #99

Abbas rejected Israel facilitating the move of refugees from Syria... shira Jun 2015 #83

Abbas had no right to sign away their freedom of movement, Israel had no right to play games with azurnoir Jun 2015 #101

But he could've agreed & saved thousands. So what you're saying... shira Jun 2015 #104

you seem supportive of Israel's attempt at blackmail am I right? azurnoir Jun 2015 #106

So you really do support Abbas' decision to let them stay in Syria. shira Jun 2015 #107

dodging my question? I support them being allowed into what is their rightful country azurnoir Jun 2015 #110

Sure you do, but you believe Abbas was right to let them stay in Syria shira Jun 2015 #113

Abbas did not let them stay Israel forced them to stay, Abbas was not asked to sign away their right azurnoir Jun 2015 #114

Israel didn't force them to stay. All they had to do was sign a piece of paper.... shira Jun 2015 #116

Abbas had no means by which to stop them if they wished to sign azurnoir Jun 2015 #118

I guess it's a good thing leftynyc Jun 2015 #131

Same author getting all the effusive praise in this thread? King_David Jun 2015 #77

"This OP knows what he is talking about" oberliner Jun 2015 #84

LOL King_David Jun 2015 #90

Anytime that someone disagrees with Israels extreme right wing government 4now Jun 2015 #67

Wanting the Jewish state gone & its Jews imperiled is antisemitic. n/t shira Jun 2015 #86

I agree with the OP. Little Tich Jun 2015 #119

....and I agree with you . Israeli Jun 2015 #121

I also think that the presence of the settlements is the very foundation of the one-state solution. Little Tich Jun 2015 #123

Who do you think Marc Goldberg was .... Israeli Jun 2015 #124

The settlements, every time there is an announcement of expansion it is a reminder of Israeli Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #125

Settlements? Find one popular BDS leader who supports a Jewish Israel. shira Jun 2015 #135

What do you think is the motivation behind BDS? n/t Little Tich Jun 2015 #136

To end Israel & my proof is N. Finkelstein who is anything but a Zionist.... shira Jun 2015 #139

Great post Jefferson23..... Israeli Jun 2015 #122

"He is not Left wing BTW" oberliner Jun 2015 #126

How do you think I know oberliner ? Israeli Jun 2015 #132

I don't know oberliner Jun 2015 #133

You have oberliner..... Israeli Jun 2015 #134

Never oberliner Jun 2015 #138

I am not confusing you with another poster oberliner.... Israeli Jun 2015 #140

You are accusing me falsely of something that I have never done. oberliner Jun 2015 #141

Yea, although one person thinks he is left wing, but whatever. The fact that he is not is what Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #127

You're always welcomed here too King_David Jun 2015 #128

lol ok Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #129

How do you know he is not left wing? oberliner Jun 2015 #137