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FBaggins

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22. You seem to be missing the point.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 07:02 PM
Mar 2012

It isn't just an issue of how small the thing is.

It also isn't an issue of someone saying they're were "able" to do something.

We were able to do it decades ago... but didn't.

You've found lots of sites talking about Israel's nuclear capability... can you find one that says they ever tried to make a ground-penetrating nuke? Anyone speculating that they have one? You can't just say "they have nukes" and "they could make a small one"... you have to have a reason to believe that they produced this specific type.

The only sites I've ever seen with such speculation were the l-fringe types (aliens, "west coast uninhabitable from Fukushima", chemtrail, etc). One even speculated that the explosion in Fukushima unit 3 was a nuclear bunker buster. Did you know that Israel caused the tsunami in Japan with a deep sea nuclear explosion to punish them for supporting Iran? I sure didn't.

The difference is, Iran was already at war with Iraq - the US and Israel armed both sides. leveymg Mar 2012 #1
In this forum, we discuss the pros and cons of different energy sources. bananas Mar 2012 #4
You can frame it however you like. But, draw your own conclusions, and we'll draw ours. leveymg Mar 2012 #6
My conclusions have been pretty accurate. bananas Mar 2012 #13
You're right about some of that, but use has no correlation at all with proliferation. Thank g-d - leveymg Mar 2012 #14
Deterrence failure rate ... bananas Mar 2012 #18
Your conclusions have been very accurate. kristopher Mar 2012 #25
Is this a prelude to... FBaggins Mar 2012 #2
It does read like that, doesn’t it? OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #5
I doubt there's any choice. FBaggins Mar 2012 #10
We don’t need to sell Israel nuclear warheads OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #15
Miniturizing a nuclear warhead is much more complicated than just having nukes. FBaggins Mar 2012 #17
Nuclear weapons and Israel OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #19
Again... that isn't the same thing FBaggins Mar 2012 #20
And in 40 years… OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #21
You seem to be missing the point. FBaggins Mar 2012 #22
No, I'm not missing the point at all OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #23
So they felt the need to purchase our conventional bunker munitions... FBaggins Mar 2012 #24
We buy blue jeans from China OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #26
Hmmm… according to the BBC… OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #3
Is the OP going to stick to his assertion that Sep. 30 was before June 7, 1980? (oops) leveymg Mar 2012 #7
September 30, 1980 is before June 7, 1981. nt bananas Mar 2012 #9
Are you going to stick to your assertion that 1981 is before 1980? nt bananas Mar 2012 #11
No. Point to you. leveymg Mar 2012 #12
BBC got it wrong. nt bananas Mar 2012 #8
For what it's worth OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #16
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