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hunter

(38,311 posts)
14. I'm the radical environmentalist patiently waiting for the automobile age to end.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 12:19 AM
Mar 2015

Fossil fuels are abhorrent to me, and I'm rather indifferent about modern nuclear power in comparison.

I think the best reason to oppose nuclear power (and most especially clean fusion nuclear power, if that technology is ever developed) is that it supports the growth of our environmentally destructive economic system. What we call "productivity" today is directly proportional to the damage we do to the earth's environment and the human spirit.

If we must have cars, then electric and hybrid electric cars parked under solar awnings to recharge during the day seem like a pretty good deal. The idea seems to terrify the fuel industry. Imagine people who commute back and forth to work all year without ever having to stop at the gas station. You end up with a situation where even medium sized cities have only one or two fuel stations right next to a freeway ramp and nowhere else.

There's not really any comparison between computers and energy technology. We don't really know yet how far we can push information and computer technology, and the quantum limits are still far beyond our reach. But the laws of physics regarding transportation, lighting, chemical synthesis, etc., can't be pushed beyond well established thermodynamic limits, and with efficiencies of thirty percent and beyond in many of these technologies the cost of the equipment becomes the greater concern.

Ok, I'll bite mindwalker_i Mar 2015 #1
Even with solar and more economical electrolizers, the infrastructure will control costs... NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #2
"Hydrogen" cars have several problems. mackdaddy Mar 2015 #3
IMO, not practical ever, not for mainstream transport. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #4
Yep. Hydrogen "fuel" is just a way to keep fossil fuel incorporated in business. hunter Mar 2015 #5
How much did a 486 Computer cost in the '80s nationalize the fed Mar 2015 #7
Your pipedream will forever be so. The fuel of the future will forever be just that. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #9
Having to resort to using foul language nationalize the fed Mar 2015 #11
I'm the radical environmentalist patiently waiting for the automobile age to end. hunter Mar 2015 #14
Just because something has been done a certain way in the past nationalize the fed Mar 2015 #6
Hydrogen made from renewables is inefficient. Chevron, BP, Shell, Conoco, all want us to move to H2 NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #8
Hydrogen made from renewables is free nationalize the fed Mar 2015 #10
"after the equipment is paid for" NickB79 Mar 2015 #12
Even with solar, H2 is a dud. Breakdowns common. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #13
I wonder if some kind of compromise may emerge. (And I would be interested in your thoughts on this StevieM Mar 2015 #20
Anhydrous Ammonia would be a much better Hydrogen fuel for big central dealers mackdaddy Mar 2015 #15
All true, but fuel cells of every type have a long way to go before they can be considered reliable. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #16
I taught a Fuel Cell class at the community college level. mackdaddy Mar 2015 #17
VERY interesting. Maybe we can talk offline some time. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #19
There are many ways to make hydrogen, dangerous natural gas being... NNadir Mar 2015 #18
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