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GliderGuider

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18. There's no arguing with any of that.

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:57 PM

May 2014

I'm exploring this terrain because I've discovered that I have serious metabolic syndrome. In order to regain my health I have to cut virtually all starches and sugars out of my diet. The only realistic way for me to get enough calories in that situation is to eat more meat and its associated fat. Which goes against my ecological sensibilities something fierce. So this has forced me to look more carefully at both the biophysical and by extension the moral implications of eating meat.

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Grist: Debunking the meat/climate change myth [View all] GliderGuider May 2014 OP

I have adopted the policy of ignoring EVERY article saying "Don't Eat This" Demeter May 2014 #1

do you really think... handmade34 May 2014 #4

I have been highly incredulous pipoman May 2014 #2

nefarious? handmade34 May 2014 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author villager May 2014 #28

"It is not the livestock; it is the way they are raised" handmade34 May 2014 #3

It is the way corporations are raising livestock liberal N proud May 2014 #6

The root problem is the number of people on the planet. GliderGuider May 2014 #7

It is a cost thing.. pipoman May 2014 #8

that does not dismiss handmade34 May 2014 #9

The mass production of grain contributes as much or more to AGW and environmental disasters GliderGuider May 2014 #10

I would be the first handmade34 May 2014 #11

According to the FAO the world produces 8 times as much cereal grain as livestock. GliderGuider May 2014 #13

Your comment got me wondering GliderGuider May 2014 #16

it is not quid pro quo though... handmade34 May 2014 #17

There's no arguing with any of that. GliderGuider May 2014 #18

get off all grains poopfuel May 2014 #19

That's exactly the course I'm following GliderGuider May 2014 #22

I agree with you. I have just learned about most upaloopa May 2014 #30

Seems like mass production in general might be an issue The2ndWheel May 2014 #12

That's the premise of Craig Dilworth's book "Too Smart For Our Own Good" GliderGuider May 2014 #14

That *is* the underlying problem: Nihil May 2014 #21

It's what makes Homo sapiens an inherently unsustainable species. nt GliderGuider Jun 2014 #34

Exactly. The citation in the OP actually confirms the assertion, and the connection villager May 2014 #29

A lot of important points here caraher May 2014 #15

You summarise it well. Nihil May 2014 #20

1 kg per person per day (people) is less than 6.7 billion tonnes per year (transportation) muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #23

And of course there's the issue that exhaled CO2 is part of the short-term carbon cycle. GliderGuider May 2014 #24

Total CO2 equivalent from grass-based v. mixed-system cattle muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #25

Thanks! nt GliderGuider May 2014 #26

I disagree completely. upaloopa May 2014 #27

k! stuntcat May 2014 #31

I'm afraid this article is so much... well, bullshit - pardon the expression. Bill USA May 2014 #32

I wondered if I should keep kicking this but stuntcat Jun 2014 #33

You're really going? I will miss you. GliderGuider Jun 2014 #35

Years ago DU was the only place I could find a group who cared about the one thing I did stuntcat Jun 2014 #36

Report supports shutdown of all high seas fisheries stuntcat Jun 2014 #37

this proud thread needs a kick, I think! stuntcat Jul 2014 #38

It might be better to post some of the links from your last 2 posts as OPs caraher Jul 2014 #39

UN urges global move to meat and dairy-free diet stuntcat Jul 2014 #40

51% of human caused ghg stuntcat Jul 2014 #41