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Exultant Democracy

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26. I think you entierly missed my point, it's just not going to be allowed to happen we will cheat.

Reply to pscot (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:23 PM

Feb 2013

Of course 3-4 degrees of warming is terrible everyone agrees with that.

My point is that there is a lot of energy going into Geo-engineering right now. We have a team in England that has proof of concept for a technique to inject sulfur into the atmosphere. If that or something else smart doesn't pan out you can bet the Chinese or Russians will start setting off volcanoes. It won't be pretty, but its the cure I worry about with this one.

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New Scientist - Major Methane Release Almost Inevitable - We're Likely A Few 10ths C Away [View all] hatrack Feb 2013 OP

Not to mention the possibility of Fireballs Demeter Feb 2013 #1

Oooh! Aaah! hatrack Feb 2013 #2

... phantom power Feb 2013 #3

"May stick to certain types of planets" hatrack Feb 2013 #7

Unfortunately the time we might have been able to address this was 50 years or more ago. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #4

excuse my tangent... phantom power Feb 2013 #5

Pretty much everything. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #9

no, I mean you are missing a word in your sig line phantom power Feb 2013 #11

D'oh! GliderGuider Feb 2013 #12

"Is that understandable?" mcranor Feb 2013 #15

Question, ... do you consider energy seeking behavior, ... CRH Feb 2013 #23

No, it's everything from gathering wood for a fire to planting vegetables and smelting iron. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #29

And we could have addressed it then, if it were not for fear of change. zeemike Feb 2013 #13

Actually, we couldn't have. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #14

While that is an interesting observation. zeemike Feb 2013 #17

This is why I say that people steeped in humanism will have a very hard time with the idea. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #18

Actually, I'll walk that back a bit. Almost everybody will have a hard time with it. nt GliderGuider Feb 2013 #19

I understand it. zeemike Feb 2013 #20

As you say, GliderGuider Feb 2013 #21

First it is the individuals, then it is society. zeemike Feb 2013 #22

That's the fundamental misperception of how change happens. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #25

Well that is an interesting perspective. zeemike Feb 2013 #34

I agree, this is Koyaanisqatsi. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #35

We could've maybe done it 20 years ago. joshcryer Feb 2013 #27

It might have been physically possible 20 years ago. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #30

We humans tend to usually act in response to catastrophe. joshcryer Feb 2013 #31

Yep, that's the way it works. GliderGuider Feb 2013 #32

Foom! nt Javaman Feb 2013 #6

Election meltdown small potatoes? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #8

If all this methane is released in the arctic austinlw Feb 2013 #10

My guess is that we start playing fast and loose with geo-engineering before it happens. Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #16

I think it's easy to mis-underestimate pscot Feb 2013 #24

I think you entierly missed my point, it's just not going to be allowed to happen we will cheat. Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #26

That's the point I was responding to pscot Feb 2013 #33

Geoengineering will only happen as a response to AGW. joshcryer Feb 2013 #28