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Virus DNA hidden in GMO crops [View all] eridani Feb 2013 OP
du rec. nt xchrom Feb 2013 #1
rec and kick Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #2
"we told you this would happen" is going to be such a Pyrrhic victory dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #3
So this virus gene, which is naturally occurring, has been demonstrated to cause problems? Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #4
Somehow, I don't think Monsanto wants to recruit volunteers to see how widely it is expressed. Overseas Feb 2013 #10
Good point. No one is eating GMO foods right now. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #18
How the hell do people know what they're eating if the farminator3000 Feb 2013 #45
Go... Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #46
Why would I post a link when you don't read them you just babble farminator3000 Feb 2013 #50
it most certainly is not naturally occurring whatsoever farminator3000 Feb 2013 #43
This world gets more terrifying every day. loudsue Feb 2013 #5
I suggest you follow the links in the article. This is not terrifying. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #19
Yesterday's terrifying if today's norm. defacto7 Feb 2013 #103
K&R ReRe Feb 2013 #6
We tried and lost on the 2012 California ballot. SCVDem Feb 2013 #26
Where are the GMO supporters now? nt Javaman Feb 2013 #7
They're out there mocking peoples' concerns. Hoping social pressure can bully people into acceptance Overseas Feb 2013 #16
Oh, bullshit. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #21
+10 !!! (NT) reACTIONary Feb 2013 #130
Actually that's not what it says at all. nebenaube Jun 2013 #135
K&R. Hope we decide to choose safety and stop the GMOs now. Rather than discover later Overseas Feb 2013 #8
It's not about "safety", it's about $$$. nt NorthCarolina Feb 2013 #11
If GMOs were not a private profit center, things would be quite different. Overseas Feb 2013 #13
For Christ sakes, there's viral DNA in every lifeform on the planet. longship Feb 2013 #9
This is just a previously undiscovered one that causes mutations and tumors if expressed. Overseas Feb 2013 #12
Well I am against the patent bullshit longship Feb 2013 #15
calling bullshit right here Viva_La_Revolution Feb 2013 #20
Well what the hell do you think cross breeding does? longship Feb 2013 #28
Actually it does seem to be inherently more harmful. I have seen some evidence on film. Overseas Feb 2013 #31
Bombarding DNA with a gene gun is absolutely not like breeding farminator3000 Feb 2013 #32
A gene gun? longship Feb 2013 #49
yes that is how monSanto inserts the genes into cells farminator3000 Feb 2013 #51
Of course they're using biology. longship Feb 2013 #62
nature certainly doesn't mix genes using bacteria. try sperm and egg? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #80
Nevertheless, humans share DNA with all life forms. longship Feb 2013 #86
thanks for being polite! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #111
Thanks for the info. longship Feb 2013 #112
nice puns! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #114
Yup--tomatoes fuck salmon all the time and produce hybrid offspring, right? n/t eridani Feb 2013 #90
It's called the "tree of life" for a reason. longship Feb 2013 #91
The common genes shared are those that rarely change at all, like those for histone proteins eridani Feb 2013 #92
Tomatoes and salmon? longship Feb 2013 #93
The genes they have in common DON'T CHANGE!! eridani Feb 2013 #94
Every lifeform on earth shares genes with every other. longship Feb 2013 #95
Genes inserted into GMO crops are by definition NOT shared. eridani Feb 2013 #107
Here's Monsanto being sued by their buddies about it farminator3000 Feb 2013 #52
oh, excuse me, they use something worse now. but they used to farminator3000 Feb 2013 #79
You cannot generally cross different species'. GMO *is* different newthinking Feb 2013 #101
No Viva_La_Revolution Feb 2013 #35
Well, you share a significant number of genes with a fish. longship Feb 2013 #37
"Science Channel" science is not going to cut it here Viva_La_Revolution Feb 2013 #65
There's no cable TV here. longship Feb 2013 #73
of course they do, that's 5th grade stuff Viva_La_Revolution Feb 2013 #77
Thanks for the link. longship Feb 2013 #78
I hope I didn't offend. I got a little passionate Viva_La_Revolution Feb 2013 #82
No offense taken. longship Feb 2013 #88
Thats the whole point, nature does not splice material from a fish into corn. FogerRox Jun 2013 #137
Genes are not spliced by breeding, please stop Tumbulu Feb 2013 #97
I should have said crossover. longship Feb 2013 #99
No, crossover's are extremely rare Tumbulu Feb 2013 #131
Correct !!!!! nt Tumbulu Feb 2013 #96
Exactly!!! The problem with Monsanto is their business practices, not the science. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #24
That is a preposterous statement farminator3000 Feb 2013 #33
I am defeated. Well played, sir! Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #41
Hysteria and ignorance of biology. longship Feb 2013 #54
+1 Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #58
why has monsanto's crap been banned in some countries, and failed to boot? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #81
I agree about Monsanto. longship Feb 2013 #102
i hear you on the rocket science... farminator3000 Feb 2013 #113
in ref. to post #113 and the common dreams article farminator3000 Feb 2013 #115
I am a scientist and nature does not do this all the time Tumbulu Feb 2013 #98
And I agree. It has to be tested. longship Feb 2013 #100
their science is not very good either NoMoreWarNow Feb 2013 #108
The incorporation of the viral genes was not inadvertant. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #109
oh but I do NoMoreWarNow Feb 2013 #119
It would be great to hear from someone in the industry about this. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #120
well, I have talked with my wife a lot about this NoMoreWarNow Feb 2013 #132
That is a lie. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #22
Not sure which part of my alarm you are considering a lie. Overseas Feb 2013 #27
I didn't get past the "previously undiscovered virus". That's bullshit. You didn't read any of it. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #29
I did read the thing. It discusses genetic mutations and tumors. Real concerns. Overseas Feb 2013 #30
Nice try. The virus in question is the Cauliflower mosaic. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #40
I don't like the headline either. Tumors and mutations Overseas Feb 2013 #44
So why are you commenting if you didn't read it? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #34
.. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #39
the virus that occurs in nature is NOT inserted into the DNA with a bacteria farminator3000 Feb 2013 #84
If you don't know that the cauliflower virus is different from farminator3000 Feb 2013 #47
Go to the OP. Click the link to the article. Click the link to the original article. Read it. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #48
I'm quite sure I know more than you about this farminator3000 Feb 2013 #53
I have no doubt you believe what you just said. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #55
I also think you are doing the same thing monsanto does farminator3000 Feb 2013 #59
you didn't read a damn thing farminator3000 Feb 2013 #83
Again? And, rather than give us something from the scientific literature, it's back to the websites. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #89
what have YOU cited from 'scientific lit'- a short 'peer review' farminator3000 Feb 2013 #110
I guess you think this is some sort of joke. It is definitely not funny. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #116
i'm glad i have offended you, because you have really blown your argument now! cheerio! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #117
No. You're wrong. It is not the virus being modified. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #118
i am completely right and you look more foolish with each post! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #121
This is your style -- you paste in more and more irrelevant shit hoping I'll give up. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #123
so you ARE working for big M! why should anyone listen to you again? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #125
LOL! Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #126
if you are looking for a way to escape this argument farminator3000 Feb 2013 #127
I've read enough of your tangential stuff. See you next time. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #128
AND, they're doing GMO friggin zucchinni now!!! wtf? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #129
So thats the main difference, into the nucleus? or outside the nucleus? FogerRox Jun 2013 #138
Human life expectancy: 35 years. Is this the way that World population will be controlled? DhhD Feb 2013 #14
You should sell that rant as an idea for a sci-fi movie. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #25
yeaks mettamega Feb 2013 #17
How terrible Highway61 Feb 2013 #23
Monsanto's golden rice hoax read it here! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #36
science illiteracy is strong in this thread.... mike_c Feb 2013 #38
Oh SHUT UP! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #42
Off you go again, despite being corrected about this further up thread. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #56
Corrected by you typing some nonsense? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #60
You claimed that the viral DNA in the GMOs was "previously undiscovered." Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #61
No I did not the article did. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #63
Ok. Quote it right here. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #64
Quote what you? don't know what you're talking about farminator3000 Feb 2013 #66
As I thought. You have nothing. Goodbye! Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #67
i've got more than you farminator3000 Feb 2013 #68
Start backing up your claims with substance, ... Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #69
You have provided no substance farminator3000 Feb 2013 #72
Is this the part you don't want to talk about. farminator3000 Feb 2013 #70
That was NOT your original claim. Have you given up on the "previously undiscovered" claim? Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #71
not at all farminator3000 Feb 2013 #74
Read the damned article. Educate yourself. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #75
phone dead farminator3000 Feb 2013 #76
here's the scoop, you dupe farminator3000 Feb 2013 #85
KICKING! patrice Feb 2013 #57
I've changed my mind on this subject. wtmusic Feb 2013 #87
HALLEH FREAKING LULYAH!!! farminator3000 Feb 2013 #122
Poisoned blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #104
Oh hey, it's this thread from Jan 23 again. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #105
sure is, do you want to continue the part about monsanto's safety study being 3 MONTHS TOTAL? farminator3000 Feb 2013 #124
May these people rot in Hell. Although I take that back because I don't even like to wish bad Maraya1969 Feb 2013 #106
EFSA: FAQ on inserted fragment of viral gene in GM plants (Please read) OKIsItJustMe Feb 2013 #133
if you are going to read that, you should read this, too. (because those answers aren't right) farminator3000 Feb 2013 #134
And that does not even include the effects we are unaware of. FogerRox Jun 2013 #136
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