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Response to wtmusic (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:34 AM

9. The long tailpipe argument just does not hold up.


It is easy to be distracted by the mis-information put forth by people whose livelihood depends on the sale of a good or service.
Well intentioned people are often misled but only for so long as they do not have information.
Below are just a few of the reasons that i could think of off the top of my sleepy head of how it takes energy to make and store energy in the form of vehicle fuel.
First is we do not make energy we just move it around and in the process we do what? Use energy to transport and store it.

It takes electricity power the pumps to get the crude oil out of the ground and into holding tanks.
The oil is then pumped or transported to ships.
Then the ship carries the crude oil thousands of miles which uses diesel converted to electricity via turbines.
The crude oil is then pumped into holding tanks again inside the refinery.
The refining process again uses electricity to refine and to collect the various distillates.
The distillate is pumped into holding tanks where it is blended with carcinogenic chemicals to provide stability for storage.
The fuel is then sent by a truck which gets about 5 mpg and shipped all over the world or in the case of diesel is refined in the US and shipped to Europe.

Then there is national security to consider.
In 2007 the US spent over 400 billion dollars on foreign oil,money which left the US never to return.
Some of that money financed terrorist organizations.

Think of the damage to the environment directly as in the case of spills like in the Gulf.
Just for laughs,an EV uses any where between 5KW to 15KW to go one mile.
This depends on where you live but most EV people pay around 30 dollars a month to operate their vehicles.
Take that and times it by 200 million vehicles,that is a lot of money. Money saved compared to paying foreign entities for crude.
Maybe the EV is not the panacea that some make it out to be but when talking about the big picture where a fraction of a per cent
saved is multiplied millions of times,then the savings to the pocket book and the environment become real important.

Thanks for you concern but don't take my word for it look around,this information is easily found.
Just take it with a grain of salt is my advice.

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