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68. After you are done cherrypicking...

Reply to Bob Wallace (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 28, 2011, 04:50 PM

Dec 2011

...perhaps you could present us the data for all 100+ reactors in the US instead of just 7.

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Nuclear Power Remains Key To America's Energy Future [View all] LAGC Dec 2011 OP

Americans oppose building more nuclear power plants in the United States, by a margin of 2-1 kristopher Dec 2011 #1

I notice that poll you cite was taken clear back in April, back when Fukashima was fresh... LAGC Dec 2011 #2

Your OP is using polling commissioned by the nuclear industry lobbying group NEI, isn't it? kristopher Dec 2011 #3

Looks like there were a lot of polls Confusious Dec 2011 #5

Here is the nuclear industry spin clearly identified for you kristopher Dec 2011 #6

I'll be protesting the resumption of building any new nuke plants madokie Dec 2011 #18

Your OP author is "creatively framing" the issue of support. kristopher Dec 2011 #4

Only 2 countries favor building new nuclear power plants more than the USA txlibdem Dec 2011 #8

No countries favor building reactors... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #10

100% of Americans want reliable electric service txlibdem Dec 2011 #17

And nuclear plants don't trip unexpectedly? jpak Dec 2011 #20

Let's see... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #21

You've only listed the reasons why we need to build NEW nuclear power plants to REPLACE old. txlibdem Dec 2011 #22

OK, give us some data... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #27

Ridiculous questions, unanswerable about DVD players, the XBOX, etc. txlibdem Dec 2011 #29

Your inability to provide a single answer... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #30

Anyone can determine the price of a DVD player??? txlibdem Dec 2011 #48

After you are done cherrypicking... Nederland Dec 2011 #68

Interesting to note that Iran is missing. Probably not easy to poll there. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #9

Interesting. According to that poll the USA is strongly pro-nuke. GliderGuider Dec 2011 #11

1) Most don't want more nukes; 2) We spend more on national defense than everyone else combined. kristopher Dec 2011 #12

Oh, the USA has more dysfunctions than just nukes and war. GliderGuider Dec 2011 #13

Wrong as usual.... PamW Dec 2011 #35

Typical flotsam from the left PamW Dec 2011 #36

Nonsense from the right jpak Dec 2011 #52

Our defense spending is ignoble, and it is "war loving" Kolesar Dec 2011 #56

Wait... when did that happen? waddirum Dec 2011 #15

???!!! "Fukishima isn't a serious threat anymore" what planet do you live on? diane in sf Dec 2011 #72

Welcome back stranger. kristopher Dec 2011 #73

It's not key now, so it can't remain key. bananas Dec 2011 #7

Well then, investors should be funding these plants jpak Dec 2011 #14

Suckers in the Southeast... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #16

yup - ratepayers in FL are paying ~$10 a month per household and there's $50 billion in gov't loan jpak Dec 2011 #19

The world got screwed by misguided anti-nuke activists txlibdem Dec 2011 #23

Misleading... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #24

Nothing misleading in my post... deflecting much are we? txlibdem Dec 2011 #25

In part, in very small part... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #26

You're on the periphery of the truth. Too bad close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. txlibdem Dec 2011 #28

Provide some proof... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #31

Here you go Nederland Dec 2011 #32

It depends on how you read the analysis... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #33

Provide some proof... Nederland Dec 2011 #34

No. Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #37

Put up or shut up Nederland Dec 2011 #38

More reactors (110) were canceled than actually built and operated in the US jpak Dec 2011 #43

I agree Nederland Dec 2011 #61

What do you make of this kristopher Dec 2011 #39

I agree Nederland Dec 2011 #40

That red herring explains neither early nor recent cost escalations. kristopher Dec 2011 #41

You have it backwards Nederland Dec 2011 #42

No the price in the 60s and early 70s wasn't stable. Look at the table. kristopher Dec 2011 #44

There are two issues here Nederland Dec 2011 #46

"A low estimated cost does not cause a high actual cost" kristopher Dec 2011 #51

I'm glad we agree Nederland Dec 2011 #59

So you accept that fraud and a negative learning curve are the problems? kristopher Dec 2011 #60

No Nederland Dec 2011 #62

Apparently you can't be bothered to consider the totality of an argument. kristopher Dec 2011 #63

Apparently you can't be bothered to consider the totality of an industry. Nederland Dec 2011 #64

Your case has been demolished. kristopher Dec 2011 #65

Really? Nederland Dec 2011 #66

Look at the table. kristopher Dec 2011 #67

Your table's data conveniently stops at 1977 Nederland Dec 2011 #69

The data goes to completion of plants started through 1977. kristopher Dec 2011 #70

It also excludes the most expensive plants Nederland Dec 2011 #71

The costs of the French nuclear scale-up: A case of negative learning by doing FSSF Dec 2011 #74

Welcome to our forum Kolesar Dec 2011 #75

Do you agree with Professor Cohen? Kolesar Dec 2011 #45

Yes Nederland Dec 2011 #47

No, do you agree with Cohen that Cohen doesn't know jack shit about risk analysis? Kolesar Dec 2011 #53

Yes Nederland Dec 2011 #57

Here's an anti-nuke bragging that they did just that, and more. Facts. txlibdem Dec 2011 #49

No so-called activists mobilizing against coal txlibdem Dec 2011 #50

Sitting on your chunk posting on a message board doesn't count as "activism" either, Tex Kolesar Dec 2011 #54

If I wasn't 100% disabled I'd be on the picket lines as we speak txlibdem Dec 2011 #58

Help me out here... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #55

Factory produced small (>500 MW) modular reactors Maslo55 Dec 2011 #76

yup... keep waiting for that nuclear renaissance waddirum Dec 2011 #77

indeed it will happen Maslo55 Dec 2011 #78

Cheap fossil fuel is going away... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #79

We need ALL of the zero-carbon energy sources, not just 2 txlibdem Jan 2012 #80

There are no Gen IV nuclear power plants... Bob Wallace Jan 2012 #81

Let's absolutely start with what we have (wind and solar) txlibdem Jan 2012 #82

If something emerges in 2020 or 2030 or 2040 or 2050... Bob Wallace Jan 2012 #83