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PamW

(1,825 posts)
16. Enlighten me....
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 03:55 PM
Apr 2012

Enlighten me...

What does this 100 Gw of renewable storage look like? Dr. Steven Chu, myself, and the other scientists of DOE would like to know what 100 Gw of renewable storage looks like.

Is it flywheels, pumped storage, batteries......? Just what is this 100 Gw of storage.

Additionally, storage isn't rated just by the power, but by the total energy stored. Sure we may have a storage system that puts out 100 Gw; but for how long? A few hours?? A few days?? A few week???

Additionally, I don't see the combination of renewables and storage costing less than nuclear fission.

That would only be true if you use the estimates from the likes of UCS who assume that they will be able to drive the price up by an order of magnitude by the delaying tactics of filing lawsuits. I don't see that happening under current nuclear regulation laws.

Additionally, the GE Mark I units in Japan are not the same as GE Mark I units in the USA. Japan / Hitachi / Toshiba "licensed" the Mark I design from GE. Additionally, even though GE provided reactors for 2 of the Fukushima Units ( 1 and 6 ); the rest of the plant doesn't strictly follow the GE design as those in the USA do.

The US NRC requires venting that the Fukushima Units don't have ( hence the hydrogen explosions ), and in the USA, backup diesel generators and their fuel tanks are required to be in water-tight vaults and buried. The Fukushima generators were below grade in non-watertight basement, and the fuel tanks sat on the surface at dockside.

PamW

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ orpupilofnature57 Apr 2012 #1
OH BROTHER!!!! PamW Apr 2012 #2
You have an amazing ability to completely miss the obvious point kristopher Apr 2012 #3
POOR COMPREHENSION!!! PamW Apr 2012 #4
At least you admit it. kristopher Apr 2012 #5
The designers at Fukishima did not use "probability theory" correctly Kolesar Apr 2012 #6
Are you a freeper? Flat out no orpupilofnature57 Apr 2012 #7
Actually I AM answering the question PamW Apr 2012 #15
Actually you just make the OP author's point kristopher Apr 2012 #19
Nuclear is not unique PamW Apr 2012 #23
Yes nuclear IS unique. kristopher Apr 2012 #27
More like PamW Apr 2012 #37
Extremely High Consequence kristopher Apr 2012 #38
It's amazing... just amazing... isn't it? n/t SpoonFed Apr 2012 #39
And as far as your Flippant example... orpupilofnature57 Apr 2012 #8
Flipping 10 heads in a row: joshcryer Apr 2012 #14
Nope, renewable enrgy-anti nuke groups are not exploiting FogerRox Apr 2012 #9
You are locked into an inaccurate mental model of power systems kristopher Apr 2012 #10
Appeasing the 1% is the only thing keeping orpupilofnature57 Apr 2012 #11
Thats wonderful of you, in a condescending and authoritative manner FogerRox Apr 2012 #12
Here is where you went off target kristopher Apr 2012 #13
Grist specially states the chart represents a smaller model FogerRox Apr 2012 #21
No, Grist doesn't say that. kristopher Apr 2012 #26
LOl, Yes Grist does, I already quoted them just for you. FogerRox Apr 2012 #32
You didn't quote anything kristopher Apr 2012 #34
See the quotebox in comment #12? FogerRox Apr 2012 #35
Like I said about making things up kristopher Apr 2012 #36
The problem is. PamW Apr 2012 #17
Wrong Way Pam strikes again... kristopher Apr 2012 #18
Your're done FogerRox Apr 2012 #30
What is it that you don't have a clue about? kristopher Apr 2012 #33
Yes, mismatch sucks FogerRox Apr 2012 #29
Enlighten me.... PamW Apr 2012 #16
"Enlighten" you? kristopher Apr 2012 #20
My mind is open... PamW Apr 2012 #25
I hate to side with Kris but WOW FogerRox Apr 2012 #22
Dodged question` PamW Apr 2012 #24
Would you settle for a 500Mw solar plant? FogerRox Apr 2012 #28
Normally I use 20% in 20 years FogerRox Apr 2012 #31
Not really. The most important lesson is STILL that in a 9.0 earthquake and in a 15 meter NNadir Apr 2012 #40
Ghastly sentence structure Kolesar Apr 2012 #41
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