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4. loans taken without the permission of those who contributed the funds
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:39 AM
Dec 2012

and which are spent by people who have not intention ever, then or now, or paying it back........

I think this sums up the essence of the situation. And then we need to make those funds separate from the general funds so that they cannot be used again the way they were, without some provision made to repay them at the time. THAT should be part of any Obama grand bargain.

About Social Security being 'on the table [View all] Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 OP
All great reasons to stick 1% with the tab, leave that on the table . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #1
don't leave it on the table so much as Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #3
K&R !!! orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #5
I believe that the Trust Fund was loaned, not spent. MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #2
loans taken without the permission of those who contributed the funds Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #4
The very definition of theft. RC Dec 2012 #9
I have a great idea--we could put the segregated funds in a "lockbox." Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #27
loans which Bush actually calle Worthless IOU's Pharaoh Dec 2012 #10
I am almost 50 and have been paying in since I was 12. That is MY MONEY! Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #6
The fund is NOT empty silhouete2 Dec 2012 #7
"The GOP hates social programs" is only half of it, xtraxritical Dec 2012 #12
Well silhouete2 Dec 2012 #23
Sure, well thanks for the opinion, it's as good as mine. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #24
because one of the things that has been suggested to deal with the 'problem' of Social Security Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #29
And that's ALL political silhouete2 Dec 2012 #30
clearly Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #31
I agree silhouete2 Dec 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #8
Obama has tried Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #18
kick! diddlysquat Dec 2012 #11
This is one of the best posts I've ever read here. However, plethoro Dec 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #14
That wasn't taking to the streets. That was being thrown to plethoro Dec 2012 #17
Dog Gone, I missed your orginal post. Thank you saidsimplesimon Dec 2012 #15
The GOP PATRICK Dec 2012 #16
The very kindest thing I can say about this OP is that it is "misleading". bvar22 Dec 2012 #19
and yet repeatedly, when this question of repayment has been raised Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #20
let me elaborate Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #21
Hope it clarifies that more people don't give a flying rat's ass what the right thinks than do. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #22
I think at least enough people did pay attention Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #25
Assuming Pelosi Will Take SS "Off the Table" Iggy Dec 2012 #26
K&R JDPriestly Dec 2012 #28
The "trust fund" is an accounting gimmick that today allows the full payment of benefits. dkf Dec 2012 #33
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