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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #3)

Sun May 26, 2013, 08:00 PM

4. Of course something is being left out.

And most likely it was the part where she said "okay, fine" or similar.

Now, the guy may be putting his needs or desires before hers, but it doesn't make him a rapist.

Again, it's quite simple. Consent is consent. Consensual sex is sex in which both parties have given consent. Rape is non-consensual sex.

Do I have that right? Is there some missing element such as "if the guy pleads, pushes or tells the girl "but I love you!", then it is "coercion"? Cause if that's the case, every nearly single boy is guilty the first time they had sex because women have been generally socialized to believe that protection of their virginity is a prime virtue.

ON EDIT: "somehow he ended up inside me" sounds like a pretty massive abdication of personal responsibility as well as a very unlikely description of events leading up to it.

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