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19. The challenge is separating one from the other.

Reply to yardwork (Reply #18)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 05:15 PM

Feb 2013

Those who promote that kind of hate are happy to speak for feminists in general, without much obvious pushback.

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Is hating men THIS MUCH healthy? [View all] Bonobo Feb 2013 OP

He, he, he! "IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" WTF! Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #1

What I don't get it how THAT is not a "hate group"/"Hate site" Bonobo Feb 2013 #2

I don't know that is a group, though I see the "circle." Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #3

Well to the same extent that the "MRA" is defined as a group. Bonobo Feb 2013 #4

I completely understand what you are saying. Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #5

Yeah, these links. Bonobo Feb 2013 #6

WHAT THE HOLY FUCK IS WRONG WITH THAT ASSHOLE?! Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #7

Yup. And the "mindset" behind it has to be seriously questioned. Bonobo Feb 2013 #8

It's mental illness, obviously. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #17

Yeah. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #15

I had to go look that one up LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #20

Thanks for clarifying. The details on that particular story have been telephoned, for sure- Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #23

Atrocious indeed. LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #24

This is telling ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #11

Can someone explain the basis of the radfem rage against LGBT people? MicaelS Feb 2013 #9

From what I parsed.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #10

Yeah, sure. Here it is, essentially: Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #14

I feel fortunate that the Women I know in real life are sane. n/t Gore1FL Feb 2013 #38

As best I recall from university there are two "issues" Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2013 #58

In answer to your question about whether or not there are men who hate Chas Bono as much as yardwork Feb 2013 #12

I think it's a particular obsession with this crowd. I don't hang around on FR much, but I suspect Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #13

Yes, there are a group of feminists who get unhinged about trans people, for reasons outlined here. yardwork Feb 2013 #18

The challenge is separating one from the other. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #19

Nonsense. I don't know a single feminist in real life who would have anything to do with this. yardwork Feb 2013 #25

Most *actual* feminists I know in real life are completely pro LGBT rights, for instance. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #27

That is correct. yardwork Feb 2013 #28

Nah, I suspect most disgruntled kooks are genuine. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #29

Good point. Either way they are not representative. yardwork Feb 2013 #30

You are spot on, there. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #31

It's either extremely irrational or a false flag designed to divide progressives. yardwork Feb 2013 #32

I just don't think it's big or influential enough to be a false flag. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #33

Very good points. I had never heard of this "radfem" movement either and I'm old as dirt. yardwork Feb 2013 #34

I had a friend who attended Smith College in the 80s. For about a year or two we couldn't converse Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #39

So then why do some here on DU lay claim to the title "rad fem". Isn't it the "radicalism" Bonobo Feb 2013 #35

Don't ask me. I have no idea what they're talking about. yardwork Feb 2013 #36

I should not have phrased it as a question. Bonobo Feb 2013 #37

The assumption that I am "less angry" might be incorrect. yardwork Feb 2013 #42

I guess my question is, what are the specific things you are angry about? Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #53

I think the ONLY people who assert that "radfemhub" represents all "real" Feminists is radfemhub Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #22

Exactly, as the folks at your link point out. yardwork Feb 2013 #26

A fraction, yes Major Nikon Feb 2013 #40

If you think that 20 people is a large percentage of 3.4 billion women I don't know what to say. yardwork Feb 2013 #41

Not sure where you're getting those numbers Major Nikon Feb 2013 #43

I personally think it's maybe a small elevator or broom closet full of people, max Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #44

Sheila Jeffreys alone commands a worldwide audience Major Nikon Feb 2013 #45

How many of these people are there? yardwork Feb 2013 #47

It's not a contest. Hate is hate, and it should all be roundly condemned. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #48

It's a fair question. If I'm going to be browbeaten because "lots of" feminists say hateful things yardwork Feb 2013 #50

I don't believe lots of feminists say hateful things about men, personally. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #52

I'm not really down with the idea that hate can justify hate Major Nikon Feb 2013 #49

Eh, I'm not seeing it. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #51

I have no doubt their population is waning Major Nikon Feb 2013 #54

Part of it is, I think the mainstream "Feminist Community" doesn't give a shit about the extremists. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #55

To her credit, Dworkin was on the right side of this one Major Nikon Feb 2013 #56

Here is the "rationalwiki" article on radfemhub: Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #16

Yikes! Denninmi Feb 2013 #21

Does it matter? Denninmi Feb 2013 #46

I think it does. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #57

What a bigoted asshole. Dash87 Feb 2013 #59