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10. At one time, a woman's "virtue" was her only asset

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 07:50 PM

Mar 2012

parents would guard it vigorously because marrying up was her only hope of transcending the class into which she was born.

People "repressed women's sexuality" not just for moral/theological reasons, but also economic and practical ones, and they still do.

Rape has been a crime in western tradition since 3rd century Rome.

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Why do we teach girls that they lose something with sex and men that they gain something? [View all] Bonobo Mar 2012 OP

Did you mean "use?" Or "lose?" Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #1

Yes I did and just fixed it. Thanks. nt Bonobo Mar 2012 #2

There's a guy in my office who taught his daughters that their vagina is called a "cookie" Papagoose Mar 2012 #3

Extremely creepy. Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #6

Cookie Monster must have terrified them! Fearless Mar 2012 #14

Property, property, property. bemildred Mar 2012 #4

From another devil's advocate playing perspective Broderick Mar 2012 #5

looking both historically and cross-culturally your explanation, really holds no water La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2012 #9

At one time, a woman's "virtue" was her only asset lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #10

It's the "purity ball" mentality Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #7

At the risk of upsetting most of the participants in this topic, regarding the issue of ... radicalliberal Sep 2012 #27

One, you lost me at "the exploitative nature of casual sex" Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #28

Forget it. radicalliberal Sep 2012 #30

If that's what you take away from what I wrote, you're wrong. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #31

Sorry, Warren....but I think you overreacted there ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #33

Its possible. Even i am not always right, i suppose. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #34

I'll have more later.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #35

I composed my post in the middle of the night when I should have been in bed. radicalliberal Sep 2012 #39

Then we agree on much. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #40

There's no need to apologize. radicalliberal Sep 2012 #42

Everyone should be allowed the respect of self determination. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #43

"First, you don't know what boasting took place the next day in the [i]girls[/i] locker room, ..." radicalliberal Sep 2012 #44

Then welcome to oddball central. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #45

Describing sex outside of marriage as 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #29

Like I said, that post lost me at "the exploitative nature of casual sex" Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #32

Sometimes? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #36

I think sex is something that can be enjoyed on a number of levels, sort of like Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #37

It illustrated the entire point of my OP perfectly. Bonobo Sep 2012 #38

Because americans are all about assets, property and value. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #8

Jeff, I think this phenomena goes way beyond America or Capitalism or even Western Civilization. Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #11

Not to this degree. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #12

That was kind of the same thing I was saying. Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #13

No offense, but this is hardly just an "American" thing...It's in every patriarchal culture whathehell May 2012 #19

I think that this message to girls Tumbulu Mar 2012 #15

It was also to insure that men were not supporting another man's child.. whathehell May 2012 #21

because if she doesnt guard it Dokkie Apr 2012 #16

Just like Jack and Jill, mama told the sailor Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #17

+1 nt Bonobo Apr 2012 #18

Great question...As a female, I often wondered about that myself and yes, it is the cause of a whathehell May 2012 #20

Except, often, it is women who are acting as the self appointed monitors of sexual purity Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #22

For women who wish to use sex for personal gain 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #23

Maybe, although like I said my own suspicion is that it's operating on a deeper, programmed level Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #24

What ever it is, people seem to come by it naturally Major Nikon Sep 2012 #25

Sex with me is it's own reward. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #26

... Major Nikon Sep 2012 #41