Sex with a sleeping drunk woman IS rape.

[caraher]

14. I didn't see a call for "word policing" there

More like a call to step up and say something about specific predatory behaviors, rather than ignoring or laughing them off. I'm far less concerned with which words someone is using than I do about whether they treat others with the respect we're all due as human beings.

I agree that it's significant that we're dealing mainly with a population of repeat offenders. The question is, how do they get away with it as often as they do? Yes, they should be prosecuted... but the prosecution rate is tiny compared to even conservative estimates of the incidence of rape. Much of that is due to various forms of self-blame on the part of victims. Would it be easier for them to step forward if men were much more vocal about the fact, on which we all agree, that the person responsible for the rape is the rapist - period?

None of the women in my life who have told me they were raped prosecuted their assailant. None. It's pretty hard to jail someone when there's nobody to provide evidence against them, and that lack of evidence is primarily the result of cultural factors making it difficult to bring charges.