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westerebus

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27. Co-dependent culture.

Reply to bettyellen (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:16 AM

Mar 2014

Non-sexist with equal standing.

Just a thought.

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Men need... (add your own). [View all] Bonobo Mar 2014 OP

Men need to separate themselves from the idea that they are little "society units" sibelian Mar 2014 #1

Creepy is about ignoring other people's boundaries, and imposing yourself on a disinteretsed party bettyellen Mar 2014 #2

That behavior is anti-social and if you want to call it "creepy", I have no problem with that. Bonobo Mar 2014 #6

I just wanted to clear up what is the most common usage of creepy.... Creeper encompasses that but bettyellen Mar 2014 #10

Thank you for taking your time to explain, Betty. Bonobo Mar 2014 #12

You are welcome. I think when you are young, you can be a lot more insensitive. I have never found bettyellen Mar 2014 #17

Still, if you're worried about contemporary attitudes being unduly influenced by John Hughes movies Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #19

well, John Hughes just stood out because I can imagine teenagers being dumb enough to pick up "tips" bettyellen Mar 2014 #20

I had a witty retort all ready, and then I realized that, yes, actually Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #22

as long as you leave the boombox at home. bettyellen Mar 2014 #23

Different movie. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #24

he's the guy with the boombox in every film, even Tin Whatchamacallits. bettyellen Mar 2014 #25

That's the right attitude, but not everyone shares it Major Nikon Mar 2014 #26

Yeah, both women and men can be shit heads. Women get ridiculed for being unattractive or heavy all bettyellen Mar 2014 #28

Men should be able to express themselves without being called "weak*." Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #3

Clingy, I find, is applied to women ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2014 #4

Yes, that's what I am talking about. Bonobo Mar 2014 #7

I've only really seen that with really young women who don't know better how to handle themselves bettyellen Mar 2014 #11

'creepy' is nothing like 'slutty' geek tragedy Mar 2014 #5

Just because you haven't experienced them... Bonobo Mar 2014 #8

i was providing my own personal reaction, I have not witnessed them geek tragedy Mar 2014 #9

Yes, but the dismissive "meh" sort of proved my point. Bonobo Mar 2014 #13

no, I am saying my feeling as a man was 'meh' geek tragedy Mar 2014 #14

OK, I have no problem agreeing with all that, but Bonobo Mar 2014 #15

feminists would also agree that both men and women support it geek tragedy Mar 2014 #16

It's the best term we have, and we need you to accept it. We know that it is both a blessing and a bettyellen Mar 2014 #18

Co-dependent culture. westerebus Mar 2014 #27

It never was all that much of a blessing and is even less so now Major Nikon Mar 2014 #30

... to speak for themselves. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #21

Or at the very least stop being criticized for doing so Major Nikon Mar 2014 #31

^^^ This. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #33

They don't already? YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #38

Men need understanding. In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #29

My problem: "Men need to be given..." When any group Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #32

You're right. I could have worded it better. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #34

It's a good question, and I guess my immediate reaction after looking at the list that comes to mind Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #35

Warren DeMontague In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #36

How about this. ElboRuum Mar 2014 #37

Men need to stop feeling sorry for themselves when their unearned social advantage is criticized YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #39

You can also swap the gender roles for all of your statements Major Nikon Mar 2014 #40

False equivalency YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #41

Only if you believe men are to blame for all of women's problems Major Nikon Mar 2014 #42